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Today we went grasshoppers show jumping.
Still not sure we should have gone, mainly because his spots have got increasingly worse again this week, and although he has been showing great form over his fences at home and on monday with Geoff hes been awful with rearing and napping, where i cant even leave the yard without a battle.

Anyway, he loaded within 10 minutes and we set off, he was dead quiet in the back and we arrived with plenty of time to spare.
Off loaded and he stood grazing by the lorry.
It was outside on grass, so this would be interesting as weve never jumped outside let alone grass before.
We had a course walk first, then we were warmed up in pairs with one trainer and then went straight into arena to be judged by the other trainer. After the first round we were then given tips on how to improve the round and then go again.
Well we had a while to wait but snoop was a good boy and walked around grazing happily.
When are time arrived i hopped on in the warm up instead of at the lorry as i didnt fancy a battle.
He walked around fine then just threw a nap and stood right up
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he then trotted boldly off and warmed up okay although hanging back to the lorries.
He jumped well but much more forward, like he would be if he was going xc, but with little height and NO rounding over his fences which he does so well.
Trainer was impressed with his jump, but obviously hasnt ever seen him before just felt he needed further flat work, which he does, but today he wasnt being he usual self.
Our turn (had to wait for my pair to finish her round which took ages as she had stop after stop) we went in and trotted round but he wasnt with me at all.
He jumped round had 2 fences down but wasnt jumping at all well, more like point fire and launch
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Got told how to ride the course better, but it really want going to make much difference as i wasnt riding Snoopy, i was riding something completely different.
He jumped around again and just rolled a pole but he was horrid and hollowed through the related distance really nasty.
I felt i rode him fine, although it was a tad hard when he was hanging back to the lorries and was just racing to his fences.

I got off and washed him off, OMG his back was in a right state. *Que BBs look of horror* his spots had just come up along his spine, he reacted so badly when i sponged him off it was obvious he was in a lot of pain.
I absolutely feel sick with guilt. ALWAYS GO WITH YOUR GUT FEELING!!!

The thing is, these spots have been troubling him for nearly 5 wks now, but they come and go. This last week he has turned into a horrid horse to ride. He literally stands straight up and refuses to move.
He then puts in some fabulous work and then just switches to horrid mode again
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So i have made the decision, the vet will NOW be called *fed up with being told, theyre fine hes just being a git, stop being so soft etc* as its clear as day today that hes in pain.

I am trying to withdraw from Tweseldown and will see when the withdrawal date for MMorrell is and if its before Tuesday (when vet is coming) then I will withdraw from that too, unless vet says he will be fit to compete.

Sorry long ramble.....

So snoop is now on lunge work only.
 

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((((((((( Hugs to Snoopy))))))))))))))))))))

((((((((( Hugs to V too ))))))))))))))))))))))

These things happen Vic I am sure he will be fine, but at lease it will put your mind at rest when you have had the vet out to give him the once over.

Does Winston get the same?? If I remember Winston got some sort of lumps over his body too? Is it not the same?

Hope its nothing to bad.xxx
 

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Thanks guys.
Yep totally believe things happened for a reason...

Nope totally different spots on winston lol theyve been cured by wearing his gel pad. Snoops are def an allergic reaction to something.

He HATES you touching them, just like they were painful on me
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thing is he only had them on his sides before and they were nearly gone, but theyve just gone wild again
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I think the only way now is for the vet to give him a shot of something.

Just checked MM withdrawal isnt until 28th April - so will hold on a little longer before withdrawing....

ARGHHH

How was looking after the gang today? hang over gone
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Poor boy. Definatley doing the right thing getting the vet you don't want to establish this bad behavior. I'm sure it is down to him feeling uncomfortable. Trouble it is still likely to be down to an allergic reaction and you will also need to find to what. The main thing is the vet can treat the symptoms or whatever else is causing it.
 

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Ive hung on for too long I think. Hard when you are being told its *nothing* this bad behaviour has to come from somewhere... its just not him at all.
He loaded straight away on the way home, best hes EVER loaded.

Well, for now, hes chucked out in the field NO FOOD, NO NOTHING but grass.

Considering, he jumped pretty well, the course caused no end of problems today.... just a shame he didnt get to SHINE really
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hey ho, 3 fences down from 20 fences isnt bad i guess when youre feeling like poo.

Bless him.
 

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aw hun, poor you and snoops, he definately doesn't sound his normal self. Lets hope the vet can find out what he is allergic too so that you can get back out competing again.
 

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You poor things. I would say tho. wait before withdrawing from too many as if these spots are a reaction to something they can go down REALLY quickly. Had the same with Gen a while ago and withdraw from comps only for them to go down with one injection from the vet. Since then Ive changed his feed as it would seem that the slow release energy mix was causing them. He too was getting to the point of being VERY unhappy.

Good luck with getting it sorted.
 

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Oh thats interesting Folara. We *think* it was barley in the build up cubes. But we arent really sure. Thats the only thing i gave him that was different.

Ive bought him some ride and relax but have taken him off everything now.

Fingers x they can find out whats wrong, poor love, hes so sweet, this napping and rearing is just so out of character. This horse has been a dream for 5 months, its only been since these ruddy lumps that hes been different.

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Arg, rubbish
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I hope you get to the bottom of it all, it would be lovely to see you again if you go to MM
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Kat if we go.... PIMMS at 11am
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Ahh Bless him, I know it sounds silly, but he is not rolling in stinging nettles in the field?

The gang was fine, rode Ren in the school which was Lovely!! like riding Winnie but slighty higher LOL! Then went on a lovely hack with a girl from the yard.
Hang over gone
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However I am out tomorrow night in Oxford so will be bad again Monday
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However I am still off the fags
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BB one of mine has been covered with lumps on and off for last few week it looked like nettle rash to me though i could think of no reason for him to have allergic reaction to anything so got vet out who said there is lots about right now and suggested a course of steroids. not great idea for compeing eventer so have tried the alternative therapy route giving euphesia tablets ( i think thats how to spell it not got tube right ere) and also sulphur ones. I put calendular cream on the lumps and this seems to be working. i got info on lternative treatments for skin conditions off the web.
 

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Interesting as we are pretty convinced it was the barley as well.

Gen turned into a right monster - rearing and refusing to soften at all and he is normally a good boy as well. It might be worth taking him off everything except something like pony nuts and perhaps give him a symbiotic powder to help him settle everything as well as it can also upset the gut.

Also DONT clean the area with anything other than plain water as my vet said that putting anything on them could make them worse/hinder the healing (I mean such as a washing solution - Virkon for example). There was a HUGE difference with Gen in a day and was back to normal in only a few days so fingers crossed for you.

It so annoying when you think you are doing the right thing for them and then this happens.

Let me know how you get on with the vet.
 

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Too right
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I have a feeling us ND's will be stewardng the dressage so if we are I shall try and time it so I've got Pimm's o'clock free
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Bloody good job! I am so pleased youve managed to kick the habit too hun. Our dinner dates are going to much better
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Def not nettles, this started way before they went out in the field, and hes only had his rugs off for 3 days.

Naww good boy Ren, was a lovely day to play ponies today.

Winston is coming out of Semi Retirement.... he might be taking snoops place at T YAY!!
 

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Sometimes it takes a while for you to see what's going on, we have had girth galls suddenly erupt and felt dreadful, yet the horse was in a well fitting saddle and washed off after being ridden. it made us feel like you guilty as hell.
It does sound as if the patches are causing him intense irritation, and I would put him on an elimination diet adding things slowly one at a time to try and find the cause. You may also find giving a biggish does of liquid aloe vera will soothe the irritation, I even take it for stomach ulcers it's that effective.
When we thought Layla was allergic we started with moistened bran, then added various feeds, the vet also recommended cider vinegar but we never got round to trying it after discovering hers was ringworm!
Can you post or send me a pic of the patches?
You could also use this time off to do some long reining out of the yard a few times, it wouldn't do any harm at all.
In the past I've always found barley to be the main culprit of spots, perhaps try him on plain pony nuts or grass nuts for a while?
This is only a hiccup with any luck, and once they ae sorted he will go bck to being his lovable self. Don't beat yourself up however, we all do things like that no matter how "expert" we appear!
 

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Bloody good job! I am so pleased youve managed to kick the habit too hun. Our dinner dates are going to much better
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Def not nettles, this started way before they went out in the field, and hes only had his rugs off for 3 days.

Naww good boy Ren, was a lovely day to play ponies today.

Winston is coming out of Semi Retirement.... he might be taking snoops place at T YAY!!

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Ahh ok, not sure then hun best to get the vets advice then you will know for def.

It was a lovely day to play ponies, They all had a shower today too! The 3 yr old loved her bath!!

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I am so sorry to hear this BBs, what a shame and definately not like the boy at all!But thank god it was such an obvious thing that caused this behaviour and not one of those invisable enigmas that require months of drawn out investigations! But it must definately be an allergy of some sort, the lumps will go down really quickly I expect.
Im thinking its a reaction to starch- I would take him off all hard feed, everything, and just feed him alfa oil,nothing else, and see what happens.
If the lumps go away while he is on the alfa oil then you know its the hard feed and then you can add different foods one by one and find what it is that he is allergic to by process of elimination...
Praying that the Snoops is back on form really soon...XX
 

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suggested a course of steroids

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Thats my worry in that hes meant to be competing.
Will speak to Katie *Tom Robinsons sister* she will know what to do, if not Bobster...

L can you let me know what youve found out on the net?

I just feel we are going round in circles with him, as 2 wks ago at Aston we thought they had all gone... but BAM theyve come back but 100 times worse now
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Thanks F.
I will do, its a bloody pain its bank holiday... and YO has given Vets sister the day off tomorrow... or had she been around I would have collared her to take a look at snoop... hey ho.
He doesnt really need any food atm we have plenty of grass, so will keep him on that for the time being.
 

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Too right
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I have a feeling us ND's will be stewardng the dressage so if we are I shall try and time it so I've got Pimm's o'clock free
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If the little sod gets to go but reverts back to napping, be sure to throw something at him lol
 

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Thanks sue.
Will take pics tomorrow. They were HUGE after riding today and so painful. I washed him off and they went down slightly over his spine but were still BIG all over his rib cage etc.
We thought it might be washing powder, so washed everything in Non bio with NO conditioner... but nothing.

The long reining is a great idea, i got so annoyed with him yesterday not going out of the village i got off and led him up there - totally fine and happy to follow me... hopped back on and rode back - but obviously not idea.

Will do some ground work with him, boring stuff, but might tax his over active brain.

I had a reaction to fish which put me in hospital a few years back - was awful to the point i couldnt walk! so if anything similar he would be in so much pain
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Arghh i wish i had just got this sorted a few weeks ago, but like you say, we try our best....
 

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And this;

My eventer developed lumps on her body and filled legs a short time ago, after tests my Vet diagnosed a Barley intolerance. Is there a feed that I can use to keep the condition and energy, but without the barley ?

We have had many enquiries about this problem and many successes with our specifically designed BARLEY FREE™. Even horses with non-specific lumps and bumps have been helped by this diet. The careful balance of ingredients provides condition and energy provided nothing is added. A little chaff or sugar beet may be used without disturbing the balance
 
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