Pork

[severnmiles]

Slightly confused here, I only feed lamb/chicken and beef bones but when we have a pig slaughtered at home the dogs have the head and and trotters.

Vets/breeders say its fine to feed the head/trotters and ears yet dogs shouldn't have pork...my question is why is pork bad for dogs?

 

[sloulou]

my dog has pork..... and pork bones...

I think pork wasn't fed in the past due to parasites found in pork - but this is no longer a problem with UK pork - so no reason not to feed anymore...

 

[Tinkerbee]

Ours get pork all the time (well..not allll the time )and seem fine

 

[Wishful]

Apparently there are worms which can go to the brain - why you shouldn't eat undercooked pork!

 

[severnmiles]

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Apparently there are worms which can go to the brain - why you shouldn't eat undercooked pork!

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Does it affect them if you worm regularly? Anyone on Barf should have a better worming regime than anyone feeding biscuit foods anyway really.

Surely if the worm is in the pork it would also be in the trotters and the pigs head..both of which are recommended to feed.

 

[Tia]

It's because of fluke. Pork is a "dirty" meat so shouldn't be fed raw.

 

[welshies]

Mine gets ears and trotters but have always thought (don't really know why) not to feed pork itself. When he has had it on occassion he get's terrible farts!!! That absolutley clear the whole house! I think porks really salty isn't it? Not good for dog's. Someone once gave my dog pork scratchings and he was sick straihgt away. Might depend on the dog but think some can't take it.

 

[severnmiles]

Pork isn't salty but gammon, bacon and PS'ings can be. Pork Scratchings aren't really pork though anyway, most contain addatives, salt, wheat, yeast & E numbers amongst other ingredients so deffo would never give to a dog.

 

[welshies]

check this out:
pork & potato
(scroll down the page)

 

[Fantasy_World]

I feed my dogs the left overs when yo has their pigs sent for slaughter. I have the head, trotters, lungs and any other offal they don't want.
I usually meat cleaver the head into smaller pieces ( not squeamish btw) then boil the lot and then roast well in an oven for a few hours until thoroughly cooked.
I normally get the meat and fat off the bone and give it to them with dry mix over the next few days.
The liver and lungs I have tried cooking until they harden and can be made into treats but they don't usually keep that well I have found. Therefore they just get cooked as normal and given with the meat etc.
I have never given them the trotters whole after cooking .
Has anyone else given their dogs them after they have been roasted ( because I won't give raw, not pork bones anyway).
Severnmiles you said you have given your dogs trotters were they cooked and were the dogs fine with the bones because I am always worried about splintering

 

[severnmiles]

Why won't you give raw pork bones?

Hmm I'm not squeamish either...neighbour thinks I'm highly gross when I said 'Hmm whose having Pumba and whose having Timone'

I feed the heads halved and raw, they seem to love it.

 

[Fantasy_World]

I don't know really I suppose it's because of the old conception of pork being dirty and that it shouldn't be eaten raw etc. I just translate that into meaning for pets too which is a bit daft really seeing as wild cats and members of the dog family eat wild boar etc.
Maybe I should try them with some raw trotters next time but I couldn't give a head eurgh it's the brain that falls out that makes me what to boff so I would have to always cook that part lol.
Caz

 

[severnmiles]

I never notice the brain...its the teeth that get me! lol

 

[Fantasy_World]

lol they do look weird especially when you find them at the bottom of the boiling pan as I have.

 

[pocomoto]

Have fed pork raw for ten years, never a problem except a bit of flatulence.

Feeding raw I have never encountered worm problems in fact I have had mostly zero worm counts, except in dogs newly on the raw food and that was probably a legacy from the packet crap they had been raised on (always rehome my dogs). But I only ever feed human grade raw food.

Mine have just finished an hour and a half on the lower part of a pig leg each, very quiet here, but I will get out the air freshener for later!

Don't feed anything cooked having done all my research and personally it will be a cold day in hell before anything cooked dried and pelleted and or boiled to death gets anywhere near a dog of mine no matter how wheat free it is!

Just curious can anyone out there tell me if a dog who has been raw fed since a puppy has ever become intollerant to protien or allergic to a particular form of meat?

 

[severnmiles]

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Don't feed anything cooked having done all my research and personally it will be a cold day in hell before anything cooked dried and pelleted and or boiled to death gets anywhere near a dog of mine no matter how wheat free it is!

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Apart from lactating bitches that is exactly the same in my household! We wouldn't try and feed our horses anything but grass and hay (I also don't believe in manufactured horse feeds -soaked oats for my lot!) so why do the majority of us fill our dogs with such c*ap? My dogs are hypo-allergenic so can't eat gluten (and neither can I having coeliacs) but I still prefer feeding raw to feeding any gluten free dog food.

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Just curious can anyone out there tell me if a dog who has been raw fed since a puppy has ever become intollerant to protien or allergic to a particular form of meat?

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Pups tend to get the 5hits on raw meat when they are younger (as in the wild I'm sure mum would have regurgitated (spl?) it for them) so mine start on bones and raw flesh combined with RC at about 10 weeks.

Its no wonder so many dogs get the illnesses they do...afterall you don't hear wolves (wild or captive) getting cancer now do you?!

 

[JulieL]

If my Dally eats pork she is always really poorly for a few days afterwards and i always thought it was coz pork was so fatty.

I have lernt new things today. Thank you all!!

Poor girl!

 

[pocomoto]

A friend has now bred two generations of raw fed puppies. Her original bitches always lost drastic amounts of weight when feeding puppies on sack food, if she fed too much they would then get the sh*ts badly so it was no win.

All of her dogs began getting loose on a certain brand of sack food, when she asked the company for help they told her her dogs were allergic to Chicken and Protien. At the time we beleived them! What a load of rubbish how can a carnivore of 55 million years evolution be allergic to a principal food source!!!!!

What it probably was was the "wheat" or more to the point the sub human quality pesticide soaked cheap as chips cereal used to create the dry food, for since being on raw diet the problem has never reoccured.

All of her raw fed littlers have been healthy and the bitches began regurgitating for their puppies! I don't think she feeds much pork and probably not to those lactating as it is a bit fatty and the bones are quite hard, but she feeds Chicken and lamb more or less on demand when lactating.

I find Lamb ribs are the best if any of mine get a bit loose, usually down to me giving too much muscle meat, it's a really good canine fibre provider.

Interestingly the bitches asked for a fruit meal every evening when lactating, overripe bananas, melon, kiwi and even oranges, but when the pups were weaned they lost interest again!

Have a picture somewhere of a litter of 4 week old puppies attacking a Turkey carcas bigger than them! She weaned the puppies on raw as they were sold from 9 weeks old, she HAD to wean them at 5 weeks on the sack Sh*t!

 

[countess]

My dogs are fed raw meat but since our hunt kennels stopped doing a flesh run the hounds are fed on bagged meal. It hasnt made any differance to them at all. Must admit though they absolutley flew in the past if there had been a horse in to knacker.