Cruiseonamiro
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Ok, don't mention any names here obviously, but has anyone got any stories about people who can be included in any of the above categories?
Pot hunters, show offs, and downright cheats.
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BroadfordQueen
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Haha yes I do
Our local showground has special showjumping nights, intended for novices and people bringing on young horses. I took my youngster there for one of her first shows when I first had her- turned up and there was a girl with 3 ponies on the lorry. She does BSJA to a high standard (Newcomers/fox) with all these horses. Anyway I went in the ring and was absolutely delighted with a (albeit slow) double clear. This girl then goes in with her 3 ponies and flies round on all of them and got 1st, 2nd and 3rd, meaning I didn't get a rosette. It was only 2"3ft, but I was so proud, and a rosette would of been extra special to me- but the icing on the cake was when the girl said to her spectating friend, "Look at these crappy rosettes, don't even get any prize money!"
Our local showground has special showjumping nights, intended for novices and people bringing on young horses. I took my youngster there for one of her first shows when I first had her- turned up and there was a girl with 3 ponies on the lorry. She does BSJA to a high standard (Newcomers/fox) with all these horses. Anyway I went in the ring and was absolutely delighted with a (albeit slow) double clear. This girl then goes in with her 3 ponies and flies round on all of them and got 1st, 2nd and 3rd, meaning I didn't get a rosette. It was only 2"3ft, but I was so proud, and a rosette would of been extra special to me- but the icing on the cake was when the girl said to her spectating friend, "Look at these crappy rosettes, don't even get any prize money!"
redmerl
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Its really sad that people feel the need to do this.
The is a grade A that jumps the classes at a local riding club a friend of mine goes to. The classes are upto 90 cm.
There is also a few county ponies in the show ring too.
People can buy these horses but it doesn't mean they can ride them!
The is a grade A that jumps the classes at a local riding club a friend of mine goes to. The classes are upto 90 cm.
There is also a few county ponies in the show ring too.
People can buy these horses but it doesn't mean they can ride them!
SillyMare
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Completely baffles me to be honest - competing way below the level you are at always strikes me as a total waste of money / time.
Other thing is that every time horses compete, they risk injury (admittedly small risk unaff SJ). How gutted would you be if your Newcomers SJer got hurt pot-hunting in the 2ft6 class at a local show!!!!
There are exceptions of course (young horses, after a confidence knock, change of rider etc).
Other thing is that every time horses compete, they risk injury (admittedly small risk unaff SJ). How gutted would you be if your Newcomers SJer got hurt pot-hunting in the 2ft6 class at a local show!!!!
There are exceptions of course (young horses, after a confidence knock, change of rider etc).
rara007
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Yes.
At one series of show we go to, one person is in the novice, has only come 2nd once in the last 3 years, won every other time but STILL doesn't move to open. The open don't even do a harder course, and by her results would easily have her in the top 3. Another person at the same series, has been U14 champion, U18 reserve champion, and other 'titles', and she is a novice too. REALLY annoys me, as I go, knowing if I do the round of my dreams I'll be 3rd.
I think I'm moving myself to open this year, its actually easier to do well in.
At one series of show we go to, one person is in the novice, has only come 2nd once in the last 3 years, won every other time but STILL doesn't move to open. The open don't even do a harder course, and by her results would easily have her in the top 3. Another person at the same series, has been U14 champion, U18 reserve champion, and other 'titles', and she is a novice too. REALLY annoys me, as I go, knowing if I do the round of my dreams I'll be 3rd.
I think I'm moving myself to open this year, its actually easier to do well in.
stencilface
High upon a hillside
Hmmm, yes.
I competed against a girl in a 1m, or 1.05m open (can't remember) and she was on a horse I used to look after when I groomed for an sjer. Said horse was Grade A aged 8 and has done the Hickstead Derby, ok, well it didn't complete that, but got over the big hedge with white poles two fences before the bank
I think even going in a class like that would mean you wouldn't go in a 1.05m class.
Granted it was a different rider, but still - if I had the chance to ride something that had qualified for the Derby, I doubt I would take it in a 1.05m open now
Best bit? She had two down
I competed against a girl in a 1m, or 1.05m open (can't remember) and she was on a horse I used to look after when I groomed for an sjer. Said horse was Grade A aged 8 and has done the Hickstead Derby, ok, well it didn't complete that, but got over the big hedge with white poles two fences before the bank
Granted it was a different rider, but still - if I had the chance to ride something that had qualified for the Derby, I doubt I would take it in a 1.05m open now
dieseldog
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Best bit? She had two down
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Which just proves that she was right to be in that class. If she couldn't jump a 1.05 clear why would you make her jump bigger
Best bit? She had two down
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Which just proves that she was right to be in that class. If she couldn't jump a 1.05 clear why would you make her jump bigger
Weezy
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Hence why she was prob in the right class!
ATEOTD it was an OPEN, therefore anyone can compete and no one in the class should have bad bones about it
ATEOTD it was an OPEN, therefore anyone can compete and no one in the class should have bad bones about it
Hullabaloo
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I used to loan an ex grade B showjumper and used to do local shows and riding club stuff up to 3'. This was my level of competence at the time (actually still is, isn't that depressing!).
If we weren't eligible for the class we would go HC, but if we were then I would compete with everyone else. Despite (or probably because of) her experience she wasn't an easy ride. Sometimes we won, or got placed and sometimes we didn't.
Would that be classed as pot hunting? I never thought about it - I was just out having fun with my horse. It certainly wasn't showing off as she had a wicked stop in her and on an off day would leave me sitting on the floor
If we weren't eligible for the class we would go HC, but if we were then I would compete with everyone else. Despite (or probably because of) her experience she wasn't an easy ride. Sometimes we won, or got placed and sometimes we didn't.
Would that be classed as pot hunting? I never thought about it - I was just out having fun with my horse. It certainly wasn't showing off as she had a wicked stop in her and on an off day would leave me sitting on the floor
annapolly
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At all the local unaff series, my friend jumps the 90 and metres, and wins or 2nds every single time (mostly wins tbh, the only time I've ever seen her come 2nd is to me
)
Yet she still doesn't either try to find some higher unaff, or affiliate, and personally I think thats unfair on people who see these 90's and metres as a big thing
They go and try really hard, but she wins anyway, a lot of people I know have just stopped trying if she's in their class, who thinks that's pot-hunting?
Yet she still doesn't either try to find some higher unaff, or affiliate, and personally I think thats unfair on people who see these 90's and metres as a big thing
They go and try really hard, but she wins anyway, a lot of people I know have just stopped trying if she's in their class, who thinks that's pot-hunting?
chester1234
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When I used to do showing [never affiliated though, didn't have the money or transport], there was a local competition to me that was always full of pot hunters. One pony there had been in a PUK line up [1-4th] at EoE with the same jockey. Best bit ? Everytime she stopped it stuck its head down to eat
and my pony just stood there looking pretty.
I also remember at Gt Witchingham this year there was a v rude gentleman. I was at the start and SH had just been eliminated. He said very audibly "Fence three is just nasty." I turned around and said please don't say that, I'm next! He looked me up and down, and said "Well, if the pro's can't get round, what chance do you have?"
I went clear
meh. I think they're everywhere to be honest.
I also remember at Gt Witchingham this year there was a v rude gentleman. I was at the start and SH had just been eliminated. He said very audibly "Fence three is just nasty." I turned around and said please don't say that, I'm next! He looked me up and down, and said "Well, if the pro's can't get round, what chance do you have?"
I went clear
meh. I think they're everywhere to be honest.
Skhosu
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What if said friend doesn't want to do about 90/1m?
only_me
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At working hunter final this year - very classy ponies there that jumped fantastic clears and lovely shows. some not so nice ponies and not so good rounds.
guess who won? the not so nice ponies. why?
because they were part of the family - all winners had been to BSPS champs previously. And one HOYS whp judge standing beside me horrified. but thats showing - its not the horses its the name
*I do showing but i like to rely on my horse
another one -
one prolific winner in (here anyway
) 3*** eventer was being ridden by a junior. in a PN class called Junior Cs, where only juniors can ride.
best bit? she was elim xc
sounds petty but come on, its a PN class!!!
guess who won? the not so nice ponies. why?
because they were part of the family - all winners had been to BSPS champs previously. And one HOYS whp judge standing beside me horrified. but thats showing - its not the horses its the name
*I do showing but i like to rely on my horse
another one -
one prolific winner in (here anyway
best bit? she was elim xc
ILoveRoxy
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I always used to worry taking my old pony in small jumping classes because he had won quite a lot of money BSJA (about £300), but I think that I was allowed to be jumping in them, seeing as until I got him I hadn't ever got a double clear in a 2' class.
I was once at a local show and came out with a second and a third and I was really pleased because he wasn't the easiest pony to ride. As I was walking away someone said really loudly "I hate pothunters" and I think it was aimed at me
. I wouldn't have classed myself as a pothunter because the pony had previously been successful, but the rider was another story. We didn't stay at the same level for ages, as soon as we were doing well we moved up.
Sorry, that just turned into a bit of a winge
I was once at a local show and came out with a second and a third and I was really pleased because he wasn't the easiest pony to ride. As I was walking away someone said really loudly "I hate pothunters" and I think it was aimed at me
Sorry, that just turned into a bit of a winge
wizzi901
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QR
I think some people just get sour at other peoples success to be honest. I had ex top grade jumper, but my ability was way below his! - people used to get stressy about me doing lower classes, but simple thing is, I dont want to be jumping 3ft6, didnt then, dont now. As long as I am not cheating by the rules of the class, then i;ll jump the height I want and if I get placed and not ditched, then its hard cheese to anyone else.
The horse admittedly wasnt easy for the first year but we clicked and won a lot together. I am not an advanced rider by any means, a hobby competitor if you like. We win some we lose some but does make me laugh how people assume because a horse has been capable of jumping 1.40m, that thats what I should be doing. Horse was retired to me for an easier life, thats what he got and he could still ditch you at a 2ft jump if he felt like it!!
Now have a 14.2 which I have had for a month and because he is wizzy and looks the business, you get looks from people assuming we are not a novice combination, which we really ARE!!
Stop being sooo sour, if its real cheating pay ya money and lodge an objection, if you just dont like being beat, deal with it!
I think some people just get sour at other peoples success to be honest. I had ex top grade jumper, but my ability was way below his! - people used to get stressy about me doing lower classes, but simple thing is, I dont want to be jumping 3ft6, didnt then, dont now. As long as I am not cheating by the rules of the class, then i;ll jump the height I want and if I get placed and not ditched, then its hard cheese to anyone else.
The horse admittedly wasnt easy for the first year but we clicked and won a lot together. I am not an advanced rider by any means, a hobby competitor if you like. We win some we lose some but does make me laugh how people assume because a horse has been capable of jumping 1.40m, that thats what I should be doing. Horse was retired to me for an easier life, thats what he got and he could still ditch you at a 2ft jump if he felt like it!!
Now have a 14.2 which I have had for a month and because he is wizzy and looks the business, you get looks from people assuming we are not a novice combination, which we really ARE!!
Stop being sooo sour, if its real cheating pay ya money and lodge an objection, if you just dont like being beat, deal with it!
SpruceRI
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The problem of being labelled a 'pot hunter' (PH) is a difficult one, as most people, eventually, reach their limit of what they're capable or comfortable with doing.
If they're then successful at the highest level they're capable of, then they get the PH label, which really shouldn't be so.
To my mind, PH's are people that compete at a lot lower level than they're capable of by their own admission (not anyone elses) and then go and do the bigger classes as well.
If they're then successful at the highest level they're capable of, then they get the PH label, which really shouldn't be so.
To my mind, PH's are people that compete at a lot lower level than they're capable of by their own admission (not anyone elses) and then go and do the bigger classes as well.
Skhosu
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only _me-if she was eliminated then she should definitely not have been doing any higher! Horses go differently for different riders, who was it (pm if you want or initials
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conniegirl
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Ive seen a set of pot hunters practicaly kill a riding club.
These pot hunters (a pair of sisters) had 2 ponies who had been to HOYS and one of which had had a championship at PUK. they turned up as a little local show (and i do mean very very little) and between them they went in 20 of the 24 classes available then they took both champion and reserve in both ridden and inhand. Nobody else stood a chance.
They then turned up to every sow this riding club had for 2 years. by the end of the second year the riding club was on its knees because entries had fallen from an average of 5 per class to generaly one or 2 per class.
The riding club banned them in the end but it has taken 5 years for the riding club to get back on its feet again. Entries felll because most people decided there was no point turning up as we wernt going to get anything anyway.
These pot hunters (a pair of sisters) had 2 ponies who had been to HOYS and one of which had had a championship at PUK. they turned up as a little local show (and i do mean very very little) and between them they went in 20 of the 24 classes available then they took both champion and reserve in both ridden and inhand. Nobody else stood a chance.
They then turned up to every sow this riding club had for 2 years. by the end of the second year the riding club was on its knees because entries had fallen from an average of 5 per class to generaly one or 2 per class.
The riding club banned them in the end but it has taken 5 years for the riding club to get back on its feet again. Entries felll because most people decided there was no point turning up as we wernt going to get anything anyway.