IMJS97
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Are there any vets / chiros / physios out there that I can send some pics / videos of a horse I viewed today? Can pay if needed. Just don’t know if this is an existing service or not!
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Pre vetting help please
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poiuytrewq
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Interesting! Are you worried about something in particular?Are there any vets / chiros / physios out there that I can send some pics / videos of a horse I viewed today? Can pay if needed. Just don’t know if this is an existing service or not!
Thank you
I’m not sure how much time you have to arrange a vetting and all that IF you really like a horse without the risk of loosing it.
Nb I’m not a physio. Just interested . If I saw and liked a horse I’d be booking the vetting. This question makes me think your gut maybe isn’t quite there
IMJS97
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I love him and his temperament but worried about his conformation. He’s an ex racer. 13 and only just retired. Don’t want him to be in pain etc
poiuytrewq
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Do you have a photo you could pop on here?
Miss_Millie
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Is this the same horse with the hunter's bump in a previous post for £9.5k?
nutjob
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I spent 6 months in horse buying hell this year. My advice is that before you spend £9.5k have a proper 5 stage vetting with xrays of anything which looks suspicious. I had a horse fail with kissing spines (active bone remodelling going on) and it was ~£13k. It was sound and would have passed without the xrays. Seller dropped the price to below £10k which means that a potential buyer would not need xrays for insurance. Another seller decided at the last minute to refuse to have a vetting with xrays although I had said I would need this before going to view.
I also viewed a horse with a jumpers bump. The video footage sent was about a year old and recent pictures were taken at flattering angles. At the viewing it took the pro rider 3 goes to get rh canter lead and the horse almost stopped and then cat leaped over a xpole fence with me. If you have doubts when you rode the horse go with your gut feeling.
I also viewed a horse with a jumpers bump. The video footage sent was about a year old and recent pictures were taken at flattering angles. At the viewing it took the pro rider 3 goes to get rh canter lead and the horse almost stopped and then cat leaped over a xpole fence with me. If you have doubts when you rode the horse go with your gut feeling.
alibali
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I've never heard of that being offered formally as a service before. I'm not sure many professionals would be comfortable offering an opinion without physically examining the horse? I'm also not sure how valuable such an opinion would be without a hands on exam (unless the horse was visibly lame but then I'm assuming you would have seen/felt that yourself when viewing).
Normally I see an advert, enquire for more information, if I still like what I see/hear then I go and view. At that point I decide if I like the horse enough to 'risk' the vetting money and if I do then I get the best vet I can find to examine them and am happy to pay the money for their expertise.
I always tell myself that if I don't like the horse enough to pay for a vet to physically examine it then I don't like it enough to buy it!
Normally I see an advert, enquire for more information, if I still like what I see/hear then I go and view. At that point I decide if I like the horse enough to 'risk' the vetting money and if I do then I get the best vet I can find to examine them and am happy to pay the money for their expertise.
I always tell myself that if I don't like the horse enough to pay for a vet to physically examine it then I don't like it enough to buy it!
HopOnTrot
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When I eventually buy another I’ll either send videos to my physio or pay her to come with me and pretend she’s my friend!
Boulty
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I think if you’re an existing client with a good relationship then most would probably be happy to cast an eye over for obvious issues but don’t think the majority would be so happy to do this for a non client.
There’s quite a few people on here with a really good eye who are usually happy to have a look if asked nicely though (I am not one of them as I’m not good enough at spotting subtle things on a horse that’s not in front of me)
There’s quite a few people on here with a really good eye who are usually happy to have a look if asked nicely though (I am not one of them as I’m not good enough at spotting subtle things on a horse that’s not in front of me)
thatsnotmyname
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If you’re having doubts about a horse you’ve looked at it’s probs a pass.
I’ve been in same position and felt in a hurry to buy.
Someone will buy that horse with no vetting at a cheaper price.
It’s a LOT for what you’re looking at.
I’ve been in same position and felt in a hurry to buy.
Someone will buy that horse with no vetting at a cheaper price.
It’s a LOT for what you’re looking at.
Shinx
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There are conformation groups on Facebook if you wanted to post some photos. I’ve sent my vet photos and videos of a horse I was interested in, your vet may be willing to take a look?
IMJS97
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I don’t have a vet unfortunately. First horse!
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IMJS97
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It is indeed!!! I do love him. Cannot stop thinking about him. Could have been the sweetest horse I’ve met BUT I just don’t want to buy a horse who is in any discomfort etc. He passed flexion test, has good feet and teeth and didn’t flinch when I touched his back and had no girthiness… but did throw his head up slightly when transitioning to canter which could be pain or just weakness through his hindquarters..
IMJS97
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Have done on another reply
PurpleSpots
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Who was it that assessed these aspects for you?
IMJS97
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The yard. So not organised by me personally. Obviously if I do go ahead I will get a 5 stage vetting done. But just wanted to check to see if anyone could see something before I go down this expensive route!
I'm Dun
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If he is £9,500 hes about £6000 over priced for an ex racer of that age. However, if you love him it may not be an issue to you. Book the vetting, be there and make sure the vet xrays back, neck and hocks as part of the vetting. Have a long chat with them beforehand about your concerns so they know where to focus. Then just commit to it. If he fails then you have your answer, that's what vettings are for.
Trouper
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This absolutely.
Flowerofthefen
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Buying any horse is a risk. One that looks 'perfect' on the outside can still break down when you get them home. He is very expensive for an ex racer but take away the fact he is an exracer, is he completely safe, is he capable of doing exactly what you want? If so he is worth a fair bit ( still no where near asking price tho). If you loved riding him get him vetted with blood taken and go from there.
Miss_Millie
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A horse is only worth what someone is willing to pay for them, but I do agree that he seems significantly over-priced for an ex-racer.
I'm not an expert by any means, so take this with a pinch of salt, but to me he looks over at the knee. Some horses have less than ideal conformation which can be helped with physio work and correct training, but if he is already in his teens and has been ridden with legs like that, he may be very wonky in general from compensating in other parts of his body. Especially as an ex-racer.
He also looks to me like he has a lot of tension in his high-end, just from looking at the muscles, but once again I have zero qualifications and am just going off of a few photos.
If you really like him then you may still wish to proceed, but personally I would be very cautious. I can remember what it felt like buying my first horse and I know how easy it is to fall head over heels for the wrong one...it can be difficult to be objective because it's very exciting. But to be blunt, you can usually get an ex-racer for under 3k. Why this horse is triple the price of that, I'm not sure. But with his conformation going off of photos, personally I do not think he is worth the price, and remember that the one time cost of buying the horse is nothing compared to the many vet bills and sleepless nights if you buy a horse who is broken.
Hopefully some other people will weigh in, but if it were me I would keep looking.
I'm not an expert by any means, so take this with a pinch of salt, but to me he looks over at the knee. Some horses have less than ideal conformation which can be helped with physio work and correct training, but if he is already in his teens and has been ridden with legs like that, he may be very wonky in general from compensating in other parts of his body. Especially as an ex-racer.
He also looks to me like he has a lot of tension in his high-end, just from looking at the muscles, but once again I have zero qualifications and am just going off of a few photos.
If you really like him then you may still wish to proceed, but personally I would be very cautious. I can remember what it felt like buying my first horse and I know how easy it is to fall head over heels for the wrong one...it can be difficult to be objective because it's very exciting. But to be blunt, you can usually get an ex-racer for under 3k. Why this horse is triple the price of that, I'm not sure. But with his conformation going off of photos, personally I do not think he is worth the price, and remember that the one time cost of buying the horse is nothing compared to the many vet bills and sleepless nights if you buy a horse who is broken.
Hopefully some other people will weigh in, but if it were me I would keep looking.
IMJS97
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Sent you a message! X
AWinter
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From these photos my opinion is this horse does not have appropriate muscling to support a rider currently and I’d be very concerned about damage that has already been done if he’s been out hunting etc like this. Please don’t pay 9k for this horse, there are lots of lovely horses out there that you will love.
Kaylum
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If he is an ex racehorses has he been scoped and xrayed. Ex racers round us go for about 3k. It's lot for an ex racehorse. Is he with a dealer?
ycbm
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You were worried about him before you went to see him.
You're worried about him now you've seen him.
He's a13 year old not long retired ex racer advertised at a truly shocking price of £9,500.
His tuber sacrale (bumps on top of the bum) are not an equal height nor is the muscle on either side symmetrical, indicating a probable past or ongoing SI problem. He is seriously short of bum muscle, why?
He is over at the knee, very often indicating heel pain, often results in tripping and a later diagnosis of navicular.
He looks old for a 13 year old horse.
Especially as a first horse, PLEASE, walk away.
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You're worried about him now you've seen him.
He's a13 year old not long retired ex racer advertised at a truly shocking price of £9,500.
His tuber sacrale (bumps on top of the bum) are not an equal height nor is the muscle on either side symmetrical, indicating a probable past or ongoing SI problem. He is seriously short of bum muscle, why?
He is over at the knee, very often indicating heel pain, often results in tripping and a later diagnosis of navicular.
He looks old for a 13 year old horse.
Especially as a first horse, PLEASE, walk away.
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Amymay Again
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It's simple enough to retain one. And obviously you're looking for a vet to simply vet the horse in the first instance local to where the horse is.
Kaylum
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And do not be pressured into buying him. They will say someone is coming to look at him in a few days. Car dealers and Estate Agents use the same tactics.
Miss_Millie
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I was thinking the same. He looks very under-muscled and weak.
Shinx
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He’s over at the knee and his pelvis doesn’t look great. For that price you can get a really nicely put together, experienced, straightforward horse.
Exracers, even nice, experienced ones, don’t go for more than 3-4k.
Exracers, even nice, experienced ones, don’t go for more than 3-4k.
IMJS97
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I think that photo isn’t great for the knees but yes perhaps. Are you a vet? Would love to chat more if you are!
Shinx
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I wish! No, but having bought and sold exracers I can tell you this horse is not worth 2k, and certainly not 9.5. I’m sure he’s a lovely person but there are many, many horses out there that you’ll fall in love with! I would strongly suggest turning this one down so you can find the one that’s right for you.
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