Pidgeon
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Not sure if any of you are aware of the destruction this will cause not only to the countryside, people's lives etc but that it is also proposed to go straight through Stafford BE course!
Hope they scrap the damn thing, totally unneeded and a huge waste of money!
It is and it isn't, it will keep a lot of people employed, and a lot of families out of trouble for many years. Its sad that we will lose bits of the countryside, but we can only hope that in very sensitive areas, and/or places there is a lot of resistance that they choose to tunnel it as they plan to do through the Cotswolds AONB (aren't they?). There will still be a fair bit of leeway in the actual alignment I would imagine - I say this having walked 6, yes 6, 3 km sections of highway (doing transects 10m apart, so no small job!) for one infrastructure project so they could get the alignment that was the path of least resistance.
It is and it isn't, it will keep a lot of people employed, and a lot of families out of trouble for many years. Its sad that we will lose bits of the countryside, but we can only hope that in very sensitive areas, and/or places there is a lot of resistance that they choose to tunnel it as they plan to do through the Cotswolds AONB (aren't they?). There will still be a fair bit of leeway in the actual alignment I would imagine - I say this having walked 6, yes 6, 3 km sections of highway (doing transects 10m apart, so no small job!) for one infrastructure project so they could get the alignment that was the path of least resistance.
can you define low carbon infrastructure please DL?
eta I know it won't benefit those in the countryside that isn't the intention. as an aside I have enjoyed watching the history of railways recently with regards to the building of the victorian lines, the financing, non profit making lines being built anyway etc. anyway I digress!
thanks, for some reason I wasn't sure in my head if it was just transport.
Trouble is noone wants renewable energy developments near their houses either
I LOVE wind farms think they are fabby. Would you rather have a wind turbine and solar panal on your roof/backyard or 20 times more coal fired power stations or nuclear power stations? I don't understand people, they want the benefits, but aren't willing to pay the prices!
I also love windfarms, but can't help thinking they are a sticking plaster for a gushing artery, not sufficient and a short term measure that looks good.
Your last point kind of exactly explains why we need the HS2 if our infrastructure is to keep up with a bigger population and greater commuting of people to work into employment hubs from areas further out with cheaper housing etc
I am an eternal optimist when it comes to the environment.
Fwiw my railway geek ex reckons the money should be spent adding extra lines on current routes, reopening the fourways that were closed for economic reasons and improving the rolling stock so that all carriages can actually be attached to all trains. (Oh and better broadband for E-meetings )
i could kiss you
i work in one of the low carbon industries you mention and i'm so tired and world weary of NIMBY's who ring me full of self righteous ranting everyday. I too started as an optimist trying to do my bit for a sustainable future. But the NIMBY's nearly have me beaten
I'd recommend anyone watch the film "The Age of Stupid" and think a little about the not in my backyard attitude.
i could kiss you
i work in one of the low carbon industries you mention and i'm so tired and world weary of NIMBY's who ring me full of self righteous ranting everyday. I too started as an optimist trying to do my bit for a sustainable future. But the NIMBY's nearly have me beaten
I'd recommend anyone watch the film "The Age of Stupid" and think a little about the not in my backyard attitude.
. Pre 1950s, we didn't have the huge network of footpaths and bridleways we have now, afforded by all the disused railway lines that were created before then.: