Puppy prices ?

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

https://www.gumtree.com/p/dogs/micro-bully-for-sale-/1372632549

This is the most expensive I've ever come across

And this is what she will look like once she is fully grown:



I was reading about these as a 'friend' of mine has just flown to Romania to buy two of them, it's a new type of bully that they are now breeding/'developing' and they are a MESS. £10k for something that is completely deformed that is prone to breathing issues, dysplasia of elbows and hips cannot naturally give birth or mate, struggles with anything requiring athelticism, terrible teeth, arthritis and metabolic disease.

 

[masajackrussells]

That’s just so sad. It’s so obviously not a functional dog! Some people really to give a shit about animals do they...??

 

[SAujla]

And this is what she will look like once she is fully grown:

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I was reading about these as a 'friend' of mine has just flown to Romania to buy two of them, it's a new type of bully that they are now breeding/'developing' and they are a MESS. £10k for something that is completely deformed that is prone to breathing issues, dysplasia of elbows and hips cannot naturally give birth or mate, struggles with anything requiring athelticism, terrible teeth, arthritis and metabolic disease.

I can't even look at that picture for long, their personalities might be fantastic but that just isn't right. I remember reading that the person who created the Labradoodle said its his life's regret but this is criminal. Even at its most relaxed state they will be some levels of discomfort breathing or joint pain

 

[be positive]

I can't even look at that picture for long, their personalities might be fantastic but that just isn't right. I remember reading that the person who created the Labradoodle said its his life's regret but this is criminal. Even at its most relaxed state they will be some levels of discomfort breathing or joint pain

That is a caricature bred to bring out the worst physical traits, I like a dog that looks like a dog and can function as one, breeding something like that says a lot about the person who will look no further than making the next profit, the person who created the doodles did so for the right reasons, that they are now bred as a fashion accessory must make him sad but he aimed to breed sound dogs fit for purpose, these look fit for nothing, they are not even something I would want to look at let alone own.

 

[palo1]

And this is what she will look like once she is fully grown:

View attachment 49543

I was reading about these as a 'friend' of mine has just flown to Romania to buy two of them, it's a new type of bully that they are now breeding/'developing' and they are a MESS. £10k for something that is completely deformed that is prone to breathing issues, dysplasia of elbows and hips cannot naturally give birth or mate, struggles with anything requiring athelticism, terrible teeth, arthritis and metabolic disease.

Each to their own I suppose but even if this dog were healthy I cannot imagine why someone would want a dog like this I can't read the language behind this kind of creation even - what does this breed 'represent' in terms of the human ego? Very sadly I recently saw an advert for an English Bull Terrier that was bred abroad and 'produced' as a family protection dog. For all their plainness they are lovely dogs but I cannot imagine why on earth anyone would think it a good idea to train one as a protection dog. This poor thing here, isn't even that For interest here is that poor BT and he is not even expensive in comparison. People are appalling sometimes and in so many different ways.

Bex, English Bull Terrier Dog - New

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Bex, real genuine sale, Sporting English Bull Terrier, imported from Serbia. Top breeding, a compliment to any kennel or new owner. All paperwork, Defra registered, passport, pedigree, all injections including rabies.
Bought for my sister as a protection dog but due to change of circumstances she cannot give him her time. Impossible for me to keep him as my dogs really don't like him.
Bex is house trained, he also lives out. Brought up around children and well socialised with other dogs. First to meet him will want him, his temperament is impeccable. Please no time wasters, this is a very sad sale. Give me a call if you have any questions. No offers.
Price: £1,850
Location: Durham
Contact: James
Phone: 07983 418546

 

[Cinnamontoast]

And this is what she will look like once she is fully grown:

View attachment 49543

I was reading about these as a 'friend' of mine has just flown to Romania to buy two of them, it's a new type of bully that they are now breeding/'developing' and they are a MESS. £10k for something that is completely deformed that is prone to breathing issues, dysplasia of elbows and hips cannot naturally give birth or mate, struggles with anything requiring athelticism, terrible teeth, arthritis and metabolic disease.

Utterly depressing. Surely there should be a law preventing this? A dog not fit for function, not fit for anything. It looks awful. ?

 

[{97702}]

Each to their own I suppose but even if this dog were healthy I cannot imagine why someone would want a dog like this I can't read the language behind this kind of creation even - what does this breed 'represent' in terms of the human ego? Very sadly I recently saw an advert for an English Bull Terrier that was bred abroad and 'produced' as a family protection dog. For all their plainness they are lovely dogs but I cannot imagine why on earth anyone would think it a good idea to train one as a protection dog. This poor thing here, isn't even that For interest here is that poor BT and he is not even expensive in comparison. People are appalling sometimes and in so many different ways.

Bex, English Bull Terrier Dog - New

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• 

Bex, real genuine sale, Sporting English Bull Terrier, imported from Serbia. Top breeding, a compliment to any kennel or new owner. All paperwork, Defra registered, passport, pedigree, all injections including rabies.
Bought for my sister as a protection dog but due to change of circumstances she cannot give him her time. Impossible for me to keep him as my dogs really don't like him.
Bex is house trained, he also lives out. Brought up around children and well socialised with other dogs. First to meet him will want him, his temperament is impeccable. Please no time wasters, this is a very sad sale. Give me a call if you have any questions. No offers.
Price: £1,850
Location: Durham
Contact: James
Phone: 07983 418546

I adore EBTs and would love one if i did already have too many dogs ? - but protection dogs they are not!

There is a white EBT in my town called Fester, I probably drive his owner totally insane because I can’t resist him and always say ‘oh Fester!’ in a delighted way when I see him, which turns him into an excited squirming thing ?

 

[Moobli]

And this is what she will look like once she is fully grown:

View attachment 49543

I was reading about these as a 'friend' of mine has just flown to Romania to buy two of them, it's a new type of bully that they are now breeding/'developing' and they are a MESS. £10k for something that is completely deformed that is prone to breathing issues, dysplasia of elbows and hips cannot naturally give birth or mate, struggles with anything requiring athelticism, terrible teeth, arthritis and metabolic disease.

And looks like a toad

 

[ester]

[QUOTE="And this is a new one on me: Pet trained ESS £4,500 ?

The person(s) who sells the 'pet trained' dogs has been doing this for a long while on preloved. I think they must be somewhere near me because their adverts are always top of my list if I ever venture onto there. I'm not sure if they ever sell any dogs though, or if the adverts are in fact a con. I guess what they're trying to sell is what the majority of people buying want; a fully trained pet dog. They're tapping into a market where people can't be arsed to train the dog themselves.[/QUOTE]

Maybe not can't be arsed, maybe know they cannot be there enough for a pup.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Holy shit

At risk of repeating myself, the 'protection dog' market is completely unregulated and full of cowboys.
Very few dogs have the minerals to really stand up to a serious threat - screaming, shouting, physical contact, and those which do are generally too much for/are not balanced enough to live safely in the average home.
Fancy dan videos will show simulations, using decoys, equipment, visual and verbal cues and locations that the dog is familiar with.
And the money being charged is unreal.

 

[palo1]

I adore EBTs and would love one if i did already have too many dogs ? - but protection dogs they are not!

There is a white EBT in my town called Fester, I probably drive his owner totally insane because I can’t resist him and always say ‘oh Fester!’ in a delighted way when I see him, which turns him into an excited squirming thing ?

Yes, they are adorable and I would love one too!! (my family simply can't see the appeal sadly). I cannot quite get my head round what you would need to 'do' to an EBT to turn it into a 'protection dog' as every single one I have met (UK bred in all likelihood) has been a complete softy and a clown to boot. It is just really sad actually. Poor Bex.

 

[palo1]

Holy shit

At risk of repeating myself, the 'protection dog' market is completely unregulated and full of cowboys.
Very few dogs have the minerals to really stand up to a serious threat - screaming, shouting, physical contact, and those which do are generally too much for/are not balanced enough to live safely in the average home.
Fancy dan videos will show simulations, using decoys, equipment, visual and verbal cues and locations that the dog is familiar with.
And the money being charged is unreal.

Yes, all of that. But then you have to wonder why people would think they would like to live with a protection dog? Something that could really do that job would be rather unnerving I think for anyone with a brain. As for an EBT being the right kind of dog, it just shows how incredibly gullible people might be...!! Poor blooming dog though They are such a sweet breed.

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Yes, all of that. But then you have to wonder why people would think they would like to live with a protection dog?

Status, so they can tell all their friends that they own a dangerous dog and all their moron friends will be impressed by that. (A protection dog in the ownership of any civilian is just a dangerous dog imo, very few people have the skill or ability to provide these dogs with the balanced, discliplined and calm lifestyle they need to function as intended). Oh, and also so they can post pictures of it on social media, to impress the morons who don't live near them.

 

[SAujla]

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/2726692-staffordshire-bull-terriers-washington.html

This is more about the typos and generally feeling like I'm being shouted at because of capital letters. Also says puppies are neutered but aren't actually due for 2 weeks, hopefully that was a mistake and not the planned desexing of the puppies that's becoming popular.

 

[GSD Woman]

That one dog reminds me of Spike the dog in the old Warner Bros. cartoons.

And English Bull Terriers as protection dogs, they might make a nice deterrent dog. I don't count on my dogs to do more than scare the hell out of people. Twice over the years I've had my dogs chase of burgalers. (and why can't spellcheck know what I mean and fix my spelling?) But my dogs don't have protection training and I know that they're deterrent dogs.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Status, so they can tell all their friends that they own a dangerous dog and all their moron friends will be impressed by that. (A protection dog in the ownership of any civilian is just a dangerous dog imo, very few people have the skill or ability to provide these dogs with the balanced, discliplined and calm lifestyle they need to function as intended). Oh, and also so they can post pictures of it on social media, to impress the morons who don't live near them.

There's a market for 'family protection dogs' of legal breeds also, as well as 'status dogs'.

https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/classifieds/2726692-staffordshire-bull-terriers-washington.html

This is more about the typos and generally feeling like I'm being shouted at because of capital letters. Also says puppies are neutered but aren't actually due for 2 weeks, hopefully that was a mistake and not the planned desexing of the puppies that's becoming popular.

Microchipped and vaccinated too. But not registered ?

 

[FinnishLapphund]

The only way I could see anyone possibly using a Swedish English Bull Terrier as a protection dog, would be as a stop block, preventing an uninvited person either from coming or leaving, simply by refusing to move out of the way.

 

[Moobli]

Yes, all of that. But then you have to wonder why people would think they would like to live with a protection dog? Something that could really do that job would be rather unnerving I think for anyone with a brain.

Slightly different but I’ve lived with general purpose police dogs and a tactical firearms support dog and never once felt unnerved. So much depends on the stability of the dog’s temperament, the quality and depth of the training as well as the skill of the handler. So IMO the vast majority of dogs that are trained to bite for real should not be sold to the GP.

 

[Moobli]

As for selling dogs with “pet” dog training, I think it’s a good idea, especially when you hear all the stories of out of control dogs on walks with poor recall and no manners. Even basic pet dog training requires a level of commitment and continuation throughout the dog’s life though so it would depend upon the new owner being willing and able.

 

[palo1]

Slightly different but I’ve lived with general purpose police dogs and a tactical firearms support dog and never once felt unnerved. So much depends on the stability of the dog’s temperament, the quality and depth of the training as well as the skill of the handler. So IMO the vast majority of dogs that are trained to bite for real should not be sold to the GP.

Exactly this! A well trained police/tactical dog is a very different cup of tea; they have a very clear working life and context and there is a training system in place. I have known retired police dogs (living with their handlers) and they were all brilliant tbh - not at all unnerving!! However a 'protection dog' trained in an unknown 'system' and with such a vague working context I would find difficult...

 

[CorvusCorax]

Anyone buying one would need good insurance, that's for sure.

 

[Smitty]

Have just seen some Dalmatian x poodle pups for £2,000 ?, although a litter of Wig pups for £350 seems quite tempting ?

 

[Meowy Catkin]

Wig? What's that? Walrus X Pig?

 

[SatansLittleHelper]

I'm currently looking for a Great Dane puppy after losing the older of my two Dane boys a month ago. Prices for these aren't too bad, 1-2k which is the normal average price but the demand is ridiculous. Scares the hell out of me, Danes are NOT for the faint hearted, esp as adolescent thugs. I really dread to think what's going to happen to alot of them

 

[{97702}]

Have just seen some Dalmatian x poodle pups for £2,000 ?, although a litter of Wig pups for £350 seems quite tempting ?

The only breeds I can even take a guess at are whippet x Italian greyhound???

WHY people just WHY!!!

Lovely breeds, there is NO BLOODY NEED to do stupid crosses!

*jumps off soapbox hurriedly* ?

 

[Smitty]

Wig? What's that? Walrus X Pig?

No, it's the very latest in designer dogs, Whippet x Pug ??

 

[{97702}]

No, it's the very latest in designer dogs, Whippet x Pug ??

Bloody hell, just when you think people can’t get any more stupid.... whoever thought of that cross should be prosecuted ?

 

[palo1]

The only breeds I can even take a guess at are whippet x Italian greyhound???

WHY people just WHY!!!

Lovely breeds, there is NO BLOODY NEED to do stupid crosses!

*jumps off soapbox hurriedly* ?

QUITE SO!!! I want to say that so much thought and effort goes into decent dog breeding that there is a nicely bred dog available for all/any purpose!! Having looked at some of the pure breeding results available I am not sure that is strictly true anymore but just why do people want to constantly make up daft crosses??? Sometimes when people meet Red they ask what cross breed he is (I have had everything from lurcher to Schnauzer x red setter lol) and had I considered bonkers x crazy etc?? I am always really happy to say that he is a decent, healthy old fashioned breed that needs no outcrossing nor 'improvement' with another breed. Wtf is the utility of a whippet x pug ?? As if pugs aren't already in enough trouble...

 

[{97702}]

QUITE SO!!! I want to say that so much thought and effort goes into decent dog breeding that there is a nicely bred dog available for all/any purpose!! Having looked at some of the pure breeding results available I am not sure that is strictly true anymore but just why do people want to constantly make up daft crosses??? Sometimes when people meet Red they ask what cross breed he is (I have had everything from lurcher to Schnauzer x red setter lol) and had I considered bonkers x crazy etc?? I am always really happy to say that he is a decent, healthy old fashioned breed that needs no outcrossing nor 'improvement' with another breed. Wtf is the utility of a whippet x pug ?? As if pugs aren't already in enough trouble...

Yes, absolutely this! What is this stupid obsession which seems to exist about crossing perfectly acceptable breeds to make something that doesn’t fulfil any different or useful purpose other than a stupid name and an even more stupid price tag?

I suppose people keep buying them so people will keep breeding them.... we go back to the point that you should need a licence to be allowed to OWN a dog!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Wants to run fast but can't breathe. Outstanding.