Fools Motto
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Firstly, the vet is aware of everything and further investigations are happening, albeit slowly.
Secondly, I am not the owner but the horse is currently in my care. The owner, although very caring, can not keep throwing money investigating and we're all trying to help without adding to the bill.
The horse is a lovely 8 yr old 15.2 cob gelding, never had a days sickness prior to this. His long term friend came to us on sales livery. He was left on his own. 10 days later, he presented 'tied up', and would not walk. When forced it was a slow shuffled, stiff gait. Vet called, diagnosed laminitis, given bute. On vets advice it was agreed he could travel to us, for rehab. Got the stable well bedded (he had lived out 24/7), with a soaked haynet. He unloaded like a tank, walked perfectly and did all the cob things including barging out, and banging the door! We put this down to adrenaline, and the bute. We clipped him to make him happy (he was hairy and prone to sweating anyway). We have a sand turn out pen, of which we put him into for an hour twice a day. Walked fine. On day 4, after being in good form, he came in from the sand pen unable to move again. I swore blind he was suffering from a 'tying up episode'. His owner looked up everything to do with PSSM, we thought that was it! Vet called again, bloods taken, confirmed lamintis again... His legs swelling to tree trunks, back on bute twice a day, legs go down. He is suffering from mites, which is being addressed too, but he is constantly stamping and banging, and has clearly not laid down at all (dirty bugger and not a stain on him). Not once has he rocked back on his heels, not once has he stood all hunched up. He doesn't have a crest, he is quite the turbo cob! Came to us looking almost too lean. Picks up all 4 feet independently without issues.
Laminitis = box rest, but box rest = lymphatic over load (that's how I describe it). His fore leg has now completely blown up, and pus is now oozing out of his elbow where he had a scab and it's burst. His skin is tight and hot - no wonder he walks like a robot. We have to move him into the next doors stable to muck him out.
Tell me more about stress lamintis - his friend leaving ?
Lymphangitis - any symptoms that can be confused with any symptoms of lami?
His owner said he may have had access to a newly planted tree prior to this starting, and was concerned it was poisonous. I can not tell you what that is though. He's never been colicy yet, but I fear that could happen as he's clearly not well. Vet and farrier coming out tomorrow, but probably not at the same time because organisation and communication between the two is, well.... sigh.
This is going on too long already and it's going in the wrong direction I fear. If the vets (who are always amazing) say it's lami, then it is, BUT every little part of me is saying this is not how a normal lami horse presents... and our treatment for lami, is actually making it worse....
Please just throw some stories, ideas and advice my way!! Thanks.
Secondly, I am not the owner but the horse is currently in my care. The owner, although very caring, can not keep throwing money investigating and we're all trying to help without adding to the bill.
The horse is a lovely 8 yr old 15.2 cob gelding, never had a days sickness prior to this. His long term friend came to us on sales livery. He was left on his own. 10 days later, he presented 'tied up', and would not walk. When forced it was a slow shuffled, stiff gait. Vet called, diagnosed laminitis, given bute. On vets advice it was agreed he could travel to us, for rehab. Got the stable well bedded (he had lived out 24/7), with a soaked haynet. He unloaded like a tank, walked perfectly and did all the cob things including barging out, and banging the door! We put this down to adrenaline, and the bute. We clipped him to make him happy (he was hairy and prone to sweating anyway). We have a sand turn out pen, of which we put him into for an hour twice a day. Walked fine. On day 4, after being in good form, he came in from the sand pen unable to move again. I swore blind he was suffering from a 'tying up episode'. His owner looked up everything to do with PSSM, we thought that was it! Vet called again, bloods taken, confirmed lamintis again... His legs swelling to tree trunks, back on bute twice a day, legs go down. He is suffering from mites, which is being addressed too, but he is constantly stamping and banging, and has clearly not laid down at all (dirty bugger and not a stain on him). Not once has he rocked back on his heels, not once has he stood all hunched up. He doesn't have a crest, he is quite the turbo cob! Came to us looking almost too lean. Picks up all 4 feet independently without issues.
Laminitis = box rest, but box rest = lymphatic over load (that's how I describe it). His fore leg has now completely blown up, and pus is now oozing out of his elbow where he had a scab and it's burst. His skin is tight and hot - no wonder he walks like a robot. We have to move him into the next doors stable to muck him out.
Tell me more about stress lamintis - his friend leaving ?
Lymphangitis - any symptoms that can be confused with any symptoms of lami?
His owner said he may have had access to a newly planted tree prior to this starting, and was concerned it was poisonous. I can not tell you what that is though. He's never been colicy yet, but I fear that could happen as he's clearly not well. Vet and farrier coming out tomorrow, but probably not at the same time because organisation and communication between the two is, well.... sigh.
This is going on too long already and it's going in the wrong direction I fear. If the vets (who are always amazing) say it's lami, then it is, BUT every little part of me is saying this is not how a normal lami horse presents... and our treatment for lami, is actually making it worse....
Please just throw some stories, ideas and advice my way!! Thanks.