Pyrenean Mountain Dog Sisters fighting - please help

[Wagtail]

Two 8 month old sisters are fighting badly. I bred them and have their parents here. My question is if I have one of them back here to keep or re home, how likely do you think it is that she will fight with her mother? I really want to have her back for rehoming, but in the winter, when the horses are all in, I do not have any places to put the dogs where I can separate them. The mother is fine with all other dogs UNLESS they attack her, and then she will fight back, and is one tough cookie. I am scared she would badly hurt her daughter if her daughter attacks her.

I know sisters can be terrible if they don't get on, but am hoping that mother and daughter would be ok? Especially as daughter is only 8 months? What do people think? I need to know ASAP before letting the owner know if I can have her back here.

Mother is now spayed.

 

[Jools1234]

i think if you bred her you are obligated to take her back and deal with things when she is with you.
fighting at such a young age is likely to be caused by a lack of control, ground rules, and common sense with regards to the current owners. get her home and see what you have, if she comes back and wants to fight the world then maybe you have a decision to make but the chances are with suitable handling/monoitering there wont be a problem, good luck

 

[CorvusCorax]

That's one of the problems with placing siblings (I know, I've done it, and it isn't recommended, and I wouldn't do it again) you just can't always expect them to be bosom buddies and keep them together all the time, indeed I would say bitches are worse and I've mentioned on another thread about a father and son we had that would fight.

As Jools, you are obligated to take her back for whatever reason but I would try and make sure the owners are managing them correctly.

Is your male dog still entire as that could be a problem if you have her into the year.

 

[Wagtail]

i think if you bred her you are obligated to take her back and deal with things when she is with you.
fighting at such a young age is likely to be caused by a lack of control, ground rules, and common sense with regards to the current owners. get her home and see what you have, if she comes back and wants to fight the world then maybe you have a decision to make but the chances are with suitable handling/monoitering there wont be a problem, good luck

That's one of the problems with placing siblings (I know, I've done it, and it isn't recommended, and I wouldn't do it again) you just can't always expect them to be bosom buddies and keep them together all the time, indeed I would say bitches are worse and I've mentioned on another thread about a father and son we had that would fight.

As Jools, you are obligated to take her back for whatever reason but I would try and make sure the owners are managing them correctly.

Is your male dog still entire as that could be a problem if you have her into the year.

Yes, I think I am going to have to see how they get along. Won't be a problem if they do. During the summer I have plenty more room to keep them separate. She's a stunning dog, the one that would be coming back. Best marked of the litter. My dog is still entire and so one of them would need to be neutered too.
The owners have some proper kennels (they recently bought a boarding kennels) so I guess we could work something out. Would prefer her here though, just can't think how to keep them separate if they don't get on. They are all outdoor dogs and I have two JRT bitches in the house who I don't want risking if she's a bit 'fighty' as they can be too!

 

[MurphysMinder]

Unfortunately litter sisters are often a problem, it may not necessarily mean she will fight with her mother, though 8 months is a classic age for trying it on If the owners have kennels perhaps they could keep both while you assist in rehoming.

 

[CAYLA]

i think if you bred her you are obligated to take her back and deal with things when she is with you.
fighting at such a young age is likely to be caused by a lack of control, ground rules, and common sense with regards to the current owners. get her home and see what you have, if she comes back and wants to fight the world then maybe you have a decision to make but the chances are with suitable handling/monoitering there wont be a problem, good luck

^^^^ EXACTLY THIS
Build a kennel if she is an outdoor dog and get her back (there is nothing to think about there) you have to give her back up!
And a valuable lesson (never let 2 siblings go together, esp bitches)
I have a half pack of bitches, its all about the rules and handling.

 

[s4sugar]

As above - not exactly unexpected and a breeder is obliged to take back.

Two bitches from the same litter rarely goes smoothly but I find it worrying that people inexperienced enough to take two giant breed puppies and then unable to cope are planning to board dogs.

 

[Wagtail]

^^^^ EXACTLY THIS
Build a kennel if she is an outdoor dog and get her back (there is nothing to think about there) you have to give her back up!
And a valuable lesson (never let 2 siblings go together, esp bitches)
I have a half pack of bitches, its all about the rules and handling.

Well I have every intention of getting her back. I do have a kennel and run but I hate dogs being on their own and it isn't next to the yard where the other dogs are. She will be on her own. Just hope she gets on with her Mum and then I will feel loads better. I didn't intend to breed. They are pets. It was an accidental mating and I spayed the bitch as soon as I could after she had the pups. If I had known they were likely to fight, no way would I have sold them two sisters.

 

[Wagtail]

Unfortunately litter sisters are often a problem, it may not necessarily mean she will fight with her mother, though 8 months is a classic age for trying it on If the owners have kennels perhaps they could keep both while you assist in rehoming.

Thank you. Yes fingers crossed they get on.

 

[Wagtail]

As above - not exactly unexpected and a breeder is obliged to take back.

Two bitches from the same litter rarely goes smoothly but I find it worrying that people inexperienced enough to take two giant breed puppies and then unable to cope are planning to board dogs.

Well lesson learned. Not that I will be breeding again. I have two JRTs from the same litter, both bitches. They have a few minor squirmishes but are the best of friends really. I also know someone with three PMD bitches, two of whom were sisters in the same litter. All in the house and no problems. But it's a lesson to learn if ever I am buying dogs in the future.