Question re saddle lengths

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We bought a new saddle in September/October last year for a full up 148 five-year-old pony we bought a couple of months previously, due to none of our existing saddles fitting her. The pony is a show-jumper, with high-class eventing parentage, and is liveried in a 20+ horse yard. We got a reccommended saddler in, who made several visits, measured her up and fitted her with a 17" saddle.

Over the intervening months, she lost weight, noticeably, such that we changed her food to try and put a bit more muscle on her. At the end of January, the saddler came around for a follow-up visit, and told us that the saddle did not fit properly due to her weight loss, which would explain why she was not jumping well, and that she needed a 16" saddle.

The saddler offered us £350 for the old saddle, and to sell us a new one for another £650 (what we paid first time round). Now, I can see a horse getting thinner may well affect the saddle fitting, and may even make the original of no use because of her shape whatever, but I cannot for the life of me see how she could shrink lengthwise requiring a change from a 17" to a 16". Am I being naive, am I missing something here?

Does this sound reasonable? We consulted another saddler, who said in their opinion the first one can never have fitted her. As it stands, we turned down the £350 and asked for £400, which has been rejected by the saddler. As I see it now, our options are now reduced to a small-claims court to try and get the money back as we consider we were sold an incorrect saddle, but that only holds true if a pony can't shrink lengthwise. If that is a known trait, then we're a bit stuck.

Would appreciate any thoughts on the length issue (rather than issues with saddlers - I think everybody has problems at some time or other with them!). Do ponies ever shrink like that?
 
It amazes me how often saddlers can sell a badly fitting saddle. Take your time and find a saddler you trust.

As for the other, if you really do want to go through court and are a BHS gold member, call the legal helpline and ask advice. I know what I would do, but I am not a legal eagle and have a sizeable pair of balls when someone tries to fleece me and it is at the expense of my horses!

If you don't want to go down that route, sell the saddle or part ex it with a saddler you trust and forget about it.
 
WTF??

I have never heard of a horses back shrinking in length because it has lost weight. Gullets, yes. Padding, Yes. Pannel length, No.

The pannels of the saddle should not come past the last rib. Were they sitting past her last rib when you bought the saddle? Are they sitting past there now?

Some saddle fitters are dogdey and get kick backs from companies they work for, but one you find a good, honest one... Hold on and don't let go! :)

Good luck and I hope you get it all sorted soon.
 
Is the saddler trying to sell you the same make and model as the previous saddle? If so then no, the seat size shouldn't need to be changed. If the model is different then it is possible that you would need a smaller seat size if the panels are longer than on your original saddle

Either way for such a small amount of money i would just suck it up and go with a different saddler rather than going through the stress of claiming. You would have to prove beyond doubt that the original saddle didnt fit.
 
A five year old MIGHT get a fractionally longer ribcage but I doubt it, I can't for a second believe that a ribcage can shrink in length! But it is indeed true that different models have very different "footprints" even if the seat length measures the same.
 
Thanks for all the replies, much appreciated.

Re the questions,

I'm not the horsey one so I didn't check the saddle didn't protrude beyond the ribs, but it was fitted to her by the saddler having been specifically made/bought in for her.

His replacement saddle was the same make /model, yes

Think we seem likely to proceed with this, have a saddler and a equine physio prepared to act as expert witnesses, so talking to the lawyers now.

Many thanks again
 
I find the lie of the hair can vary actually, but you can find the rib on almost all horses no matter how ahem, generously upholstered :) they are, lower down on the flank, then track it forwards and up, you have to project the line once you get to the back muscle anyway.
 
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