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Blooming cushings driving pony has heat in his feet and a bit of a pulse. First trip away training due on Saturday. I turned him out this afternoon, which I avoid doing on frozen ground but they've all stood in all flipping week and wouldn't have been safe to do the driving trip without some exercise IYKWIM.

I've just put stable bandages on and walked him around for ten minutes. He seems sound and the heat decreased with walking. I'll do it again in a bit. I'm also given him an ACP and an asprin in a buttie in case this helps at all.

Any other emergency ideas? I remember the leg icing idea but I'm a bit dubious, what do you guys think? He's not having an attack yet but he's definitely thinking about it.
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If hes got heat in his feet then ice will help...
Do you think its wise to take him to a driving trial if you suspect the onset of an attack of laminitis?

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I'm just the groom.

ETA... Pony's got a job to do, and my job is doing the best I can to have pony doing his job when needed. If we fail, we fail.
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Welll sorry for shooting the messenger then.

In that case.. I think I'd be saying summit to my boss about the fact that concussion can trigger laminitis off, definatly in the case of a horse with cushings and with a history of laminitis. And that oding a driving trial is not going ot help.

Lou x
 
I have a pony who is a nightmare with laminitus, partly because she jumps between two stands of electric fence and grazes my lovely lawn!!

Someone who's daughter is a vet recommended Epsom salts - also I noticed this pony did not drink much when stabled but she was always trying to drink the shampoo water. We give her hand hot water every day and it has worked a treat I think it just flushes her system. Sound whacky but it works. I never put her out on frost - the first time she got the condition was a frosty morning.
 
poppys been evry bad for lami since she came home, we really giv her bare minimum off food, boyfriend thought i was very cruel to her lol, she has a grazing muzzle too.

i kno about not puttin her out when its frosty but i dont actually kno why, can someone explain?

she doesnt drink much when she stabled either
 
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Thanks. I've just been to check him and he doesn't seem ill, still has a strong pulse though. I'll just have to see how he is in the morning. We're not going down South until Saturday morning so I'll know by then whether its gone one way or the other and he won't drive if he's ill, don't worry.

I just want to do everything I can now to stop him having an attack.

Sallypops, I'm not sure about the frosty ground, I think its to do with altering sugar levels in the grass. Its possibly also that the hard ground is more concussive and the lower temperature is worse for blood circulation getting to the feet.
 
thats what i thought but ive never actually heard a proper explanation, ive had to deal wi lami for years its so horrible, gd luck with it, hope ur wee pony keeps it away
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I think it is because stressed grass has higher sugar levels frost causes stress so strangely does over grazing!!
 
How big is he? Had several cushinoid ponios over the years so had loads of advice from vets. Current cushings pony is 14.1hh and was having 4 acp twice a day in the spring to help prevent an attack as well as half a bute twice a day. So you could up the acp perhaps?

Is he on any other medication? ie periactin or pergolide?

ets: just thought, if it was in the afternoon, then shouldn't be as bad as turning out in the morning, unless you only had sun in the afternoon. Sure it's not just mild concussion or simply the fact that he ran around a bit on hard ground after not doing much? Digital pulse means increased blood supply to foot, not necessarily laminitis.

Just thinking of other options...
 
Thank you for that. Oh I hope I'm panicing about nothing and it is just he's got a strong blood supply to his feet.
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He's 13.1 and he's on one pergolide a day.

I clipped him on Tuesday, including legs, and even though he's well rugged, its just the sort of thing to put him on the edge of laminitis. He's very good at getting it at really bad timing, I honestly think he gets excited/nervous/stressed when it comes to getting ready to go away and it can trigger an attack.
 
Please be cautious regarding the icing idea. When I had a laminitic pony about 5 years ago my vet said the old thinking was to cold hose, but the new thinking was to use WARM water. Basically this is because laminitis causes the blood vessels to constrict the blood flow and what you want is to increase the blood flow.

Of course the thinking may have changed again but I would check.

Btw when mine had laminitis its lower fetlock area was very cool.

The other thing is to avoid frozen grass as its high in fructose.

Are you sure it is laminitis?
 
Not 100% sure, no, but this pony does get mild laminitis a couple of times a year and he tends to start off the same way. He is over-due for his winter funny turn.

That's how I feel about the icing legs. It was right, then it was wrong, then I heard on here from reliable sources it was right again so long as you did it soon enough.
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Haven't done it, in case its wrong again
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cold hose him give him bute and acp get some nettle and hawthrone herbs in to him that will help loads but if he still has pulses personally i would not take him!
 
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Please be cautious regarding the icing idea. When I had a laminitic pony about 5 years ago my vet said the old thinking was to cold hose, but the new thinking was to use WARM water. Basically this is because laminitis causes the blood vessels to constrict the blood flow and what you want is to increase the blood flow.

Of course the thinking may have changed again but I would check.

Btw when mine had laminitis its lower fetlock area was very cool.

The other thing is to avoid frozen grass as its high in fructose.

Are you sure it is laminitis?

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Echo the above regarding cold hose/ice water. My vet advised me wrm water was better, my ex laminitic stood with his feet in luke warm water, funnily enought this seemed to relieve some pain.

As for advice, i would def not turn out, if you suspect lammi def dont turn out.
 
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