quick quandry & questions - pelham v's rugby pelham.

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I probably should have asked this ages ago, but I am planning on doing WH & Small Ridden Hunter classes this coming Thursday.

I was planning using my universal in the WH, but a pelham in the ridden. However, the one I bought off ebay is too big, so I need to get shopping on Saturday!.

Then at the yard last night someone recommended a rugby pelham for the ridden class as it looks more like a double. So I'm thinking I'll have a look for a little mullen mouth rugby pelham instead.

Question is - is the action of a rugby pelham any different to a normal pelham?

are they fitted differently? they mentioned I need a head slip for the rp - how would this fit (or would it fit?) on a comfort bridle? I may be able to dig out my old plain bridle & give it a polish.

Is a lip strap essential?

Would a steel or elastic curb be more appropriate?

What's a show pelham? is that different again?

I have just googled rugby pelhams and there are 2 variations, one with the 'snaffle' ring coming off a D like so.. http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl...oL9L4-Ab_9NSmCQ

and one with it attached on one link to the shank (which I think looks more like a bridoon) http://www.thetackshed.co.nz/121954_Jointed-Mouth-Pelham.gif

which one should I be looking for?

The more i think about it, the more i know why I don't normally like showing.
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Blue ribband for the first person to help!.
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A lot of professionals just use a simple pelham, I think you might have trouble getting your sliphead onto a comfort bridle, so maybe it's more hassle than you want.

The second photo just shows a pelham with a port in the middle - not a regular jointed pelham.

I would go for a normal straight bar pelham, and yes I personally would use a leather lipstrap and a proper chain curb strap, you don't have to have it tight, but it looks neat and tidy.
 
Actually just bothered clicking your links - you #2 is a show pelham and not a rugby pelham.

Rugby pelhams are butt ugly IMHO. They rattle and don't look tidy.

Action wise, the rugby slows down the snaffle action, the show pelham is closer to a normal pelham.
 
yes, i think that's maybe what I am after, - is that the same as the one in the tackshed link? are they both called rugby pelhams by some shops? -

- god it's confusing???
 
aha - so it's a mullen mouth loose ring pelham - aka mullen mouth show pelham i want, not a rugby pelham. Do I still need the head slip with that then?

And a nice shiny curb chain & a lip strap.

I feel I may be getting somewhere
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are they fitted differently?
how would this fit (or would it fit?) on a comfort bridle?
Is a lip strap essential?
Would a steel or elastic curb be more appropriate?


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Ok will answer the rest of your questions:

Not fitted differently, but you can use a sliphead for the snaffle ring, however as you are using a comfort bridle I wouldn't recommend it. Double comfort bridles have 2 extra holes in them (4 punched holes in total).

Lip strap not essential especially if one side of your curb is closed (i.e. not chance of the whole thing coming off). If your horse has a small head would advise against making it look complex.

Steel curb is normal, I wouldn't use elastic unless you can get hold of one in a dark colour elastic. Leather curb would also be acceptable.
 
Cotswold, you're a star!.

I have another plain bridle at home, (probably more appropriate as it's flat), I'll probably get the slip on to that - it'll be handier having a second bridle any way as it'll save me changing bits as WH class is first.

B has quite a dainty head, so I'll avoid the lip strap. Thanks for that tip.

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The only point of a rugby pelham (which is the one in your first photo) is to have an extra ring to attach a slip head, in an attempt to make it look like a double bridle. They have their fans but I think they are a clumsy mess and you may just as well use a double bridle.

I would always use a lip strap when using a pelham with two reins, with a double-link steel curb chain. If you prefer a leather curb you can get away without a lip strap as it gets bulky in the chin groove. Elastic curbs, and those horrid rubber sleeves, are not really appropriate for showing.
 
hmmmm - contraversial
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lip strap or no lip strap? I'll try and find a very fine one.

So does that mean I shouldn't use a slip with the show/loose ring pelham, are they just for a rugby pelham?
 
ah britestar, wish i saw your post earlier. yesterday i found a nice little show (loose ring) pelham with quite short shanks that he seems to like. Typical he rejects the £6 ebay one and goes lovely in the £30 one!.

Never mind. he's a little resistant of it at the mo, so will need to practice lots this week.

Good luck in the taster. I really wish i was doing that!!.
 
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