Rant!!! Horse now being pts

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thatsmygirl

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Iv got a lovely tempered cob who can't be ridden due to kissing spine, i found a lovely companion home who was in desperate need to find a horse to keep her 21 yr old company. Sounded perfect so after long talks she took him on with the agreement that he must come back to me if her old boy dies. It cost me a lot off money to send him to her and the 8 weeks have been fine and both horses getting on well and she loves him etc. I got a txt today to say she can't keep him anymore so will find him a home.
A, I'm not happy for him to be passed on and as stated in agreement he is to come back to me.
B, I will put him down as it's not fair on him to go to let another home as i can't really keep him anymore.
I'm now at a stand still because she won't let me put him down and is now trying to home him.
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Did you sell him to her or loan him? If you sold him, you have sadly given up all rights to decide his future and it is her decision how she passes him on.

Sorry if that is not what you want to hear.
 
if its your horse wtf has it got to do with her and why is she trying to rehome him? suggest you bring him home then make you decision
 
If the horse isn't in pain, you can't keep him and this person is willing to find him a good home, I'm sure he'd rather be alive and in another home than come back to you and be pts! How long did you have him? How many homes has he been in?
 
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Did you give her the horse or loan him?
If you gave him to her then I don't really think you have a comeback.

If you loaned her the horse then go and get him, bring him back to yours and PTS if thats what you want to do.

Why are you all having a pop at the girl who has him now? So she can't keep him but has offered to find him a good home? what a bietch! :rolleyes: Who is to say she wont be able to find him a great home where he can enjoy some retirement?

Sorry OP but if he was ok to be a companion 8weeks ago then he is still ok to be a companion. If you had any doubt of his welfare then you should of had him PTS in the first place.
 
Has she said why she can't keep him???

If I was her I wouldn't give him back to you to PTS either! If there was a genuine reason she couldn't keep him, and she loves him as you stated, how can you expect her to give him back to you to pts because he doesn't fit into your life anymore.

Why can't you keep him?
 
HappyHorses:) said:
Why are you all having a pop at the girl who has him now? So she can't keep him but has offered to find him a good home? what a bietch! :rolleyes: Who is to say she wont be able to find him a great home where he can enjoy some retirement?

Sorry OP but if he was ok to be a companion 8weeks ago then he is still ok to be a companion. If you had any doubt of his welfare then you should of had him PTS in the first place.
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Agree!
 
The way you have worded your post sounds like he still belongs to you, so I presume you are still the owner and the horse went to live with this other person to keep her horse company, therefore she has no right to re-home the horse, also I'd be rather miffed that she'd not actually rang you, simply dropping you a text wouldn't be good enough in my books, specially if the horse still belongs to you and you'd agreed the horse was to come back once it had served it's purpose with her...as a companion.

However you should have got this in writing, who has the passport and who's name is it still in?

Therefore I'd be collecting the horse, what you choose to do for the best is up to you.

Ok so you can't blame her for wanting to try and see if she can find a nice suitable home for your horse to go to, any person with a heart would want this if they were just trying to be helpful, but obviously this has to be done through you and should respect your wishes if this is not what you want.

If you gave her the horse, I'm afraid that's it, you have no say in the matter now.

Either way, hope things work out.
 
He was " free to good home on the understanding he is returned to me should anything happen where she can't keep him" both signed it.
He's been passed around as companion and I was going to pts before this lady came forward but she sounded perfect. I signed this agreement to secure the horse so I could keep contact and so he couldn't get passed on out off my control. He he gets into the wrong hands and back into ridden life, he will sersiouly hurt somebody and so I feel he is better off pts now this lady can't keep him. My situation has changed due to partner losing his job so I can't keep him. And I feel it's fairer for him to be pts than moved on and on and risk being sold back as a riding horse, dread to think where he would end up
 
Unfortunately for you, you have given him to this lady 'free to a good home' shows this. Unfortunately again, the paper that you signed is not legal and unless you had it witnessed which sometimes still is a loophole in itself the lady can keep him and do as she wishes.

I really feel for you, but in the eyes of the law he is now hers. That being said - who has the passport and has anything been done re change of ownership?
 
As others have said if the lady loves the horse and, as it seems, does now own him she would be well within her rights to try to find him another loan home/buyer. No horse is automatically better off being PTS because the partner of a previous owner has lost their job!

If you wish to retain control of an animal (including the option to PTS even a healthy happy one) then you have to retain ownership.

New owner may well think that your circumstances have changed such that she'd no longer want the horse to go back to you. Your 'gentlemen's' agreement would be difficult to enforce both in law and morality given that you no longer have what many reasonable people would consider the horse's best interests at heart.

Not that you don't have valid concerns (not to mention a lot on your plate right now - good luck with the work situation), just probably not enforceable rights. And rather questionable intentions.
 
thatsmygirl said:
He was " free to good home on the understanding he is returned to me should anything happen where she can't keep him" both signed it.
He's been passed around as companion and I was going to pts before this lady came forward but she sounded perfect. I signed this agreement to secure the horse so I could keep contact and so he couldn't get passed on out off my control. He he gets into the wrong hands and back into ridden life, he will sersiouly hurt somebody and so I feel he is better off pts now this lady can't keep him. My situation has changed due to partner losing his job so I can't keep him. And I feel it's fairer for him to be pts than moved on and on and risk being sold back as a riding horse, dread to think where he would end up
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hmmm I do see where your coming from and understand how you must be feeling, but you gave the horse away, if he was good enough to re-home then perhaps the new owner feels it's not right that he's put down because you can no longer take him back...despite your concerns for the horses future.

Can you not go round and talk it through with her, question is, why can't she no longer keep him? and make that your point, it's not fair him being passed around when people can no longer keep him/have use for him as a companion or afford him, which is why you think having him PTS is the best option, or can you not both agree that he goes to a charity or he's kept somewhere for 12 months and you both pay for him putting to sleep? meet each other half way perhaps?
 
To OP,

Is there anyway you can have him back even if its just temporary until you can find him another home?

As i understand it a vet is not going to simply put the horse to sleep because he cant be found a home and because you/her cannot come to an agreement.

How about contacting Blue Cross horse rescure - they would probably take him.
 
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Is there anyway you can have him back even if its just temporary until you can find him another home? "She's already said she can't

"As i understand it a vet is not going to simply put the horse to sleep because he cant be found a home and because you/her cannot come to an agreement."
Yes, they would

"How about contacting Blue Cross horse rescure - they would probably take him." Probably not - they're all full!
 
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OP - free to a good home in my opinion means you wave your rightsgood bye...

doubt you will be able to get him back tbh
 
This underlines what I said on the rather busy thread currently in Latest News. When your horse changes hands (sold or given away) it doesn't matter what you get signed, "first refusal" contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Anyway, this lady who now owns the horse seems to have his best interests at heart, so I think you should keep out of it.
 
mollylolly said:
To OP,

Is there anyway you can have him back even if its just temporary until you can find him another home?

As i understand it a vet is not going to simply put the horse to sleep because he cant be found a home and because you/her cannot come to an agreement.

How about contacting Blue Cross horse rescure - they would probably take him.
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I am affraid this is a rather niave view. If course a vet will PTS. The welfare charties are full up with genuine welfare cases, not such as this, where by the sounds of it the OP would have been doing a sensible thing - had she retained ownership of the horse. Unfortunatly she hasn't so these things are by the by now.

OP I am sorry you are in this position its not nice
 
hellspells said:
I am affraid this is a rather niave view. If course a vet will PTS. The welfare charties are full up with genuine welfare cases, not such as this, where by the sounds of it the OP would have been doing a sensible thing - had she retained ownership of the horse. Unfortunatly she hasn't so these things are by the by now.

OP I am sorry you are in this position its not nice
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Sorry - which part is naive? My Vet would only put my horse to sleep if his quality of life was poor, not simply if i couldnt keep him anymore. My vet is in the business to help and cure not get rid.
 
My vet would come out tomorrow and put down any horse of my choosing if I asked him too - my choice would be the gun though, not that i'm having any of mine PTS.
 
How is putting to sleep not in the horses interest??
If anybody tries to ride him at any point he will sersiouly hurt somebody.
I wish he was pts sooner but this home just sounded so perfect for him that it was worth a shot.
She did sign to state she would hand him back to me.
 
mollylolly said:
Sorry - which part is naive? My Vet would only put my horse to sleep if his quality of life was poor, not simply if i couldnt keep him anymore. My vet is in the business to help and cure not get rid.
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mollylolly, I think what was being said was most vets are realistic about horses lifechances/wellbeing. If a horse is dangerous they would sooner PTS than see it passed on as a companion. I think the other point was that people seem to think that anytime a horse cannot be looked after a charity will pick up the pieces. Unfortunately, especially in this climate, they cannot. If you speak to them they will say if you cannot ensure the future of a horse with problems then you should PTS. (WHW said exactly this to someone I know well). I agree with them completely.
 
thatsmygirl said:
How is putting to sleep not in the horses interest??
If anybody tries to ride him at any point he will sersiouly hurt somebody.
I wish he was pts sooner but this home just sounded so perfect for him that it was worth a shot.
She did sign to state she would hand him back to me.
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I'm afraid the paperwork is null and void and I would hazard a guess that she knew this and what's why she signed it. I would try and speak to her about this. I also on the other hand thought that a nominal fee was to be exchanged for change of ownership. Who has the documentation and did you sign a change of ownership?
 
lochpearl said:
I'm afraid the paperwork is null and void and I would hazard a guess that she knew this and what's why she signed it. I would try and speak to her about this. I also on the other hand thought that a nominal fee was to be exchanged for change of ownership. Who has the documentation and did you sign a change of ownership?
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LP - I expect this little horse is long gone..........


OP - did you meet this person prior to sending the horse there - and visit the yard in which it's being kept???
 
mollylolly said:
Sorry - which part is naive? My Vet would only put my horse to sleep if his quality of life was poor, not simply if i couldnt keep him anymore. My vet is in the business to help and cure not get rid.
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Then your vet is in the minority. If you were unable to look after a sick horse (OP's has kissing spines) due to finances or personal reasons, what would your vet do with the horse? They cannot refuse to put an animal to sleep because they 'think' it is ok.
 
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