Rant (kind of)....Not gelding!

[Spiritedly]

Today I saw a comment someone had put on facebook about the fact they had no intention of gelding their, rather poor, colt as they thought it was cruel and unnecessary. They seemed to honestly believe that there would be absolutely no problem with it and all they will have to do is keep it in it's current field as the mares are all kept in a separate field next door. This person had apparently 'rescued' the colt and thinks there are too many unwanted horses out there, but seems quite willing to possibly be responsible for more indiscriminate breeding.
Why do some people find it so hard to get their heads round the fact that, far from being 'cruel', gelding is in fact the most responsible and fair thing they can do as an apparent horse lover? In the wild the colts are driven off by the stallion and only the strongest and fittest are able to survive the harsh realities of nature and are able to challenge for a herd and therefore breed. We have taken the majority of horses out of the wild so it is our responsibility to ensure that we do all that we can to make sure that they are given the best chances of a long and healthy life even before conception!
Sorry about the rather long winded waffle it just annoys me

 

[Paris1]

Stupidity knows no bounds.

 

[TelH]

Stupidity knows no bounds.

^^^^ agree.

My ex (not ex at the time ) had a proper strop at me cos I had my colt gelded...apparently I was cruel and it wasn't fair to him and he's not a proper pony any more She thought it was cruel to neuter dogs too cos if they breed it's fun to see what comes out

 

[showingmadfilly]

Geld anything that isn't premium to breed from in my mind. To many unwanted, uncared for souls out there don't add more to the list.

 

[cambrica]

My bet is they won't be singing the same tune in a year or so's time. Either that or the colt will be sold on as unmanagable - not saying that all colts are unmanagable but they obviously have no idea. Maybe they should take a closer look at just how many young colt foals go for a pittance...why, because nobody wants a colt unless they are of good breeding standard or show quality. Must be the village idiot.

 

[Feathered]

Cos people are numpties, and often the more numptyish they are the more pics they post and crap they spout on Facebook. It seems never ending!

I have to resist the urge to tell them all they don't have the intelligence to own a pet rock let alone a horse.

I've had people saying to me oh why did you get your cat done he'd make lovely cute kittens.... Sigh, yes but he'd spray, fight, wander off and all sorts! Ggggrrrrrr!

 

[mightymammoth]

Geld anything that isn't premium to breed from in my mind. To many unwanted, uncared for souls out there don't add more to the list.

absolutely agree and the same goes for dogs and cats

 

[lauraandjack]

Surely it's more cruel to condemn an entire male to a life of sexual frustration by keeping him next to mares and never letting him get any action?

Same goes for dogs left entire that the owners have no intention of breeding from.

(And don't even get me started on the poor quality side of things!)

 

[Purple Duck]

Stupidity knows no bounds.

Geld anything that isn't premium to breed from in my mind. To many unwanted, uncared for souls out there don't add more to the list.

Cos people are numpties, and often the more numptyish they are the more pics they post and crap they spout on Facebook. It seems never ending!

I have to resist the urge to tell them all they don't have the intelligence to own a pet rock let alone a horse.

I've had people saying to me oh why did you get your cat done he'd make lovely cute kittens.... Sigh, yes but he'd spray, fight, wander off and all sorts! Ggggrrrrrr!

absolutely agree and the same goes for dogs and cats

Most probably NOT the Most helpful or constructive of replies but...
ALL OF THE ABOVE
xXx

 

[lauraandjack]

^^^^ agree.

She thought it was cruel to neuter dogs too cos if they breed it's fun to see what comes out

I presume she also thought it was fun to be landed with a massive vet bill when your bitch needs a caesarean due to a totally inappropriate mating ;-P

 

[Feathered]

Lauraandjack, I just posed that question to OH, he said he'd rather be gelded.

 

[lauraandjack]

LOL!

 

[Spiritedly]

Lauraandjack, I just posed that question to OH, he said he'd rather be gelded.

All of ours are gelded, they're never going to set the world on fire and I don't think anyone would have been willing to pay a fortune for their little swimmers so there was no need to limit there future by keeping them entire.
But then all our animals are done, except the ferret who is off to the vet as soon as he grows a pair and our German Shepherd whose just coming to the end of her season so will have an end put to her teasing ways in 3 months.
To me neutering your animals is one of the biggest signs of a true animal lover/ responsible owner.

 

[marmalade76]

Most probably NOT the Most helpful or constructive of replies but...
ALL OF THE ABOVE
xXx

Ditto that!

Why are stallions the latest 'must have'?

Is it 'cause the owners are too tight to have them cut, or is it 'cause they just want to impress their friends?

 

[Shantara]

While I like to day dream about breeding Ned to some gorgeous mare and seeing what comes out, breeding my dog with handsome purebred collies and having pretty kittens from my lovely cat...I have a bit more sense than that and all 3 are spayed/gelded.
There's no harm in dreaming and pretending, but when one actually puts it into practice, that's when it becomes dangerous.

My friend found out that spaying/neutering too late is an extremely bad idea. She used to have 4 rabbits...she now has 13 and none sold, so she's stuck with them! Luckily she's fallen in love and they all have a forever home with her. I think she has now had all of them snipped.

 

[asommerville]

Mad! Wait til the colt tries to mount her....

Same as why breed of a mare with dodgy legs etc if your not going to get a wonder horse why bother??

 

[Littlelegs]

They need to leave them entire, so they can impress their equally stupid friends with comments like 'I am a great rider, I own a 17.4 dappled black pedigree showjumper stallion, that I won the grand national on, how cool am I?'

 

[asommerville]

^lol

 

[flirtygerty]

I think this is a man thing, they always seem to wince when it's
mentioned

 

[Shantara]

I think this is a man thing, they always seem to wince when it's
mentioned

I once watched a horse being gelded on the TV with my ex. He couldn't watch it and kept spouting it was cruel. Haha!

 

[Enfys]

I think this is a man thing, they always seem to wince when it's
mentioned

Worse than that is to get a chap to hold lambs up while you ring them! My husband pales at the mere sight of me getting the rings out!

 

[Ladydragon]

Ssshhhh...don't tell the foalie but he is being parted company from his nads next week...

The fast learning but still fairly inexperienced Mr has been told by the world and their dog though that foalie is a really smart Sec D and should be kept entire so we can make a few bob breeding from him and, of course, he won't develop good muscle and will have a pitifully skinny neck if he's gelded...

He wasn't bothered about the breeding aspect but I'm sure he's still a little worried foalie will look like a scrawny specimen of horse when he grows up...

 

[marmalade76]

Quote from Facebook today :-

"if the horse is fine remaining entire, why castrate it imo:L"

Many others were also insisting that a male will not have a 'well filled' neck unless he is cut as late as possible. Funny how both mine have 'well filled' necks, one was not cut late, the other is a mare!

 

[Littlelegs]

Yes, good job my mare wasn't spayed she'd never have a topline!

 

[Ladydragon]

Quote from Facebook today :-

"if the horse is fine remaining entire, why castrate it imo:L"

Many others were also insisting that a male will not have a 'well filled' neck unless he is cut as late as possible. Funny how both mine have 'well filled' necks, one was not cut late, the other is a mare!

Ah...but these castrated geldings will be scrawny by comparison to mares apparently...

And the best one - they'll 'feel' awful when they are less filled out than the mares and likely to be beaten up by the girlies... Your boy must be an anomaly of course...

 

[marmalade76]

LOL, perhaps I ought to get on to the breeders of many years experience and FBHSs who trained me and tell them where they've all been going wrong??!