Rant - The Current Dog 'Pandemic'

SAujla

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We encountered the bank of reproductive organs again.

Conversation with an acquaintance we bumped into on a dog walk this evening. A friend of a friend really. I had mentioned about new pup.

Acquaintance: another corgi? A boy I assume?
Me: a dog, yes. Why?
Them: well you’re gonna breed that one aren’t you -points at tank-
Me: we did think about it yes, but no she will be speyed.
Them: why you getting a boy then? Everyone’s breeding dogs now. I bet these go for a lot.
Me: wanted another puppy, he’s very nice.
Them: make nice pups then.
Me: we aren’t going to breed. We’d have only been doing it to have something back, and with support from her breeder. As we’re getting another corgi without the risks, hassle or responsibility of a litter its even better.Plus she’s so sharp I’m not sure everyone would cope with her.
Them: why would you keep one?
Me: why would I breed otherwise?
Them: We mated them last year - points at elderly BC type male and young scatty female cockerpoo - payed for the kitchen to be done. Did her again this year but she only had one. My sister had two of the pups last year. They had pups from them this year. Bought a new car. Mum got some frenchies to breed now as well. She’s given up work.
Me: right..
Them: and next door had an extension done. They breed them, not cockerpoo - the other ones. King Charles and poodle. Always got pups. You’re missing out mate.
Me: bye. -looks at dogs- you don’t know how lucky you pair are.

And that’s probably an accurate state of affairs in many pet homes up and down the country.
I find the casual way they talk about it to more horrific than anything else. The sister breeding dogs who were pups last year is terrible. Well done for staying calm. The pandemic has opened the wrong eyes to the world of breeding
 

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I find the casual way they talk about it to more horrific than anything else. The sister breeding dogs who were pups last year is terrible. Well done for staying calm. The pandemic has opened the wrong eyes to the world of breeding
Bred at around 13 months. Two bitches of cocker/poodle/collie x Lord knows what breeding. One mated to a ‘cockerpoo’. Another mated to a ‘patterpoo’. Both belonging to other parents at the school their kids attend. 6 pups in one litter. 7 pups in another.

God bless having an OH who loves a social media stalk.
 

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It's just really galling, I work full time and put the rest of my time and money and energy into my dogs, maybe I am the fool for not using them as a cash cow. Yes I've bred my dogs but I took a puppy from one and I charged very little (less than the price of a pup) for the other despite his breeding/health tests/achievements and it went straight back into stuff for them, food, equipment, vet bills etc. All pups reserved/waiting list established before birth.
 
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i was asked lots of times if i was going to breed from my bitch puppy who is yorky/cairn/border terrier, would never even think of it, she is a mongrel and was the runt of the litter, she is very small, i dont want another puppy and if i did breed i would never be able to let them go.... it is not even an option now as she has been neutered and i can relax....2 tiny terrors are as many as i can cope with :)...it seems to be the normal now for new dog owners to breed from anything and sell for thousands. there are 3 x12 week old cockapoos in rescue as they all have undershot jaws, what a surprise...
 
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Someone on my FB is selling two of their Mini Poodles as a breeding pair, and her main selling point seems to be that they produce the smallest babies you have ever seen.. 7 inches from floor to shoulder and repeatedly says 'so small they don't even look real' and it's astonishing that this is a selling point. What happens if it trips down a step? It smashes all it's tiny, literal matchstick legs? There is a reason they aren't designed to be that small.
 

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Whilst agreeing generally that there are too many unsuitable dogs in unsuitable homes could the increase in badly behaved dogs be in part because they are fed too much high energy food?
I homed a dog from Battersea nearly 30 years ago now. She was an 11 month old Rottie X who'd been returned twice as "uncontrollable". They fed all their dogs on Eukanuba, probably the first high energy dog food marketed towards the general public. She had a magnificent coat but she was a bit of a nut job until someone suggested I put her on Chappie. It took about 10 months for her to become a dog who was a pleasure to have around but apart from training and being allowed to settle I firmly believe she couldn't cope with all that protein for a family home level of exercise. Now all these super duper dog foods are everywhere and so are lots of crazy dogs, is it related? My dogs have been on Chappie ever since.
 

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You generally will see an 11 month old dog settle down a year later, one of mine took about three years to settle the head and I had him since puppy. Genetics is a bigger issue IMO (and he was from a long line of live wires, but that's what I kinda wanted and knew already). There's a lot of stuff you just can't train out completely, just mitigate, and the average pet owner does not have the skill nor motivation to put the time into that mitigation.
 

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You generally will see an 11 month old dog settle down a year later, one of mine took about three years to settle the head and I had him since puppy. Genetics is a bigger issue IMO (and he was from a long line of live wires, but that's what I kinda wanted and knew already). There's a lot of stuff you just can't train out completely, just mitigate, and the average pet owner does not have the skill nor motivation to put the time into that mitigation.
And I have his miniature GSD counterpart. I think the word mitigate is key, as you say, with some dogs. I know madam will always try throw her weight around from time to time just to chance it, always think everything is hers until told otherwise, always know better and have more energy than the Duracell bunny on speed - as that’s just her. And after all the training and socialising in the world, that is just her. We just work with it.

Eg last night she decided the sofa was hers and nobody else’s. She is sulking with me today but now we are very clear it in fact does not belong to her.
 

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And I have his miniature GSD counterpart. I think the word mitigate is key, as you say, with some dogs. I know madam will always try throw her weight around from time to time just to chance it, always think everything is hers until told otherwise, always know better and have more energy than the Duracell bunny on speed - as that’s just her. And after all the training and socialising in the world, that is just her. We just work with it.

Eg last night she decided the sofa was hers and nobody else’s. She is sulking with me today but now we are very clear it in fact does not belong to her.
I can be quite often found explaining that I actually have the receipts for everything ;)
 

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I bet she has the RSCPT (Royal society for prevention of cruelty to Tank) on speed dial! I mean she's clever enough to use a phone.....😂
She is lucky she isn’t in the bin today, let’s put it that way! Wouldn’t surprise me if she could teach herself to use the phone, she knows to nudge the remote to turn the tv off and does this frequently - usually when being ignored for a ‘lucky not to be in the bin’ behaviour.
 

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a friend of mine had a rottie who she fed on bakers complete and he was pretty uncontrollable, her vet said to change to a different food and within 2 weeks he was much easier, she thought it was because he was more mature and changed back to bakers, dog back to being a nutcase, vet was right!!!
Bakers should be banned, absolutely vile stuff.
 

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I know a couple with 3 cocker females and 1 dog. I don't know if they are KC registered but doubt all of the litters can be because they are back to back breeding the females.

They have never shown, trained or competed their breeding dogs in any sphere so not performance dogs.

They are an older (late 60s) "respectable" couple in a nice country house but essentially they are just puppy farmers.

Just had 11 pups from one litter and they are 2k each.

They had multiple litters through lockdown too and their place was going like a thoroughfare
Yes I know two people that are like that, one breeds labradors the other cockerpoos. Forever posting that the bitch has had another litter of pups. I've seen the one dogs housing and to be fair there wasn't a hair out of place, excuse the pun, but its not the point. Its a get rich quick scheme and leaves all the other dogs stuck in cages at welfare centres for sometimes years. It's so sad.
 
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