Rare breed puppy stolen - raises a few questions

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Found this today whilst browsing BBC new website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-16084451


Now obviously this is a very short report of what happened but it does raise questions...

Such as, an 8 week old puppy (rare breed or not) left in an outhouse from 9pm to 8am in the morning? I can only guess from that then that the distressed owners are breeders and that the puppy was still with its mother (and possibly other littermates) but only the one puppy stolen?

Or was it newly acquired and left on its own?

One would assume that seeing as it is a rare breed (never heard of them myself) that there would be a waiting list for these dogs and the pups would have gone to their new homes at 8 weeks - always exceptions to the rules of course.

Or maybe they were keeping her back for themselves?

Whatever the story - its very sad and I hope the pup is found soon.

ETA: Wow - just Googled the breed and they are absolutely huge and gorgeous! Hope she is found soon.
 
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how sad.

Have to say though....no dog....(or pup) would be left for that long f it were mine!!

rare breed or not, mine live in the house and treated like kids lol.
 
I'd say it was newly acquired, some people do let pups go home as early as six weeks, not my cup of tea but people do it.
Outhouse could mean a number of things, you could say the kennels where B came from are an 'outhouse' but they are huge, centrally heated, have their own gardens :o etc etc.

Never heard of the breed either, thought it might be a Karelian bear dog but nope, a check on Google reveals that they are described as 'high drive protection dogs' - hopefully this wee mite ends gets back home as in the wrong hands her future may not be very bright :( again, wouldn't be my cup of tea in a pet home, maybe she was purchased as a guarding prospect/yard dog, who knows.
 
My dogs are kennelled outside at night - they go to bed when I do (very late :o) and I let them out at about 6.30am - although puppies stay in the house until they are old enough to be kennelled.

The story just didn't seem to sit well with me, not sure why and I am sure I am being ridiculously suspicious over nothing!

If the mother whelped in the outhouse and she was still there with the puppies then thats absolutely fine but I would be amazed if a burglar was courageous enough to steal some fishing rods when a bloody great dog was in there!
 
Why do you not think the pup was newly acquired in the past few weeks? That's how I am reading it.
I do know people who keep young pups outside, B's breeder as mentioned, not how I would do it but it does happen.
 
I 100% read from that story that the pup was newly acquired - I was just trying to give them the benefit of the doubt ;)

So, they have had the puppy for a maximum of two weeks and it is kept for 11 hours shut in an outhouse (although not necessarily on its own) :(

I see your point about luxurious kennels being called an outhouse - but would you really keep fishing equipment in them?
 
Who knows, maybe there was a kennel set up in the outhouse (the way you set up a stable inside a larger shed for example) maybe it was just a shed/garage with an area for the dog to live in (seen that as well) and there was also fishing stuff in there, without seeing a detailed plan of the property it is hard to say, some people just keep their dogs differently than others, maybe if she was purchased as a yard or guard dog and not a house dog, they wanted to have her used to the area where she would be living from very early on, who knows.
 
This is a guarding/herding breed, not for novice owners! It's going to be huge! There's an owner with similar Sarplinaic (sp?) on the pet forum. He has land and they live in one of the northern European countries and feeds them huge lumps of meat.

The pup may be cute now, it's soon gonna be a huge creature that will need very thorough socialisation. Poor little lamb.
 
I remember seeing a documentary (think it was American) and this breed was in it and one owner had commented that he needed a licence to own a gun to defend his home but not to own this breed of dog (or words to those effect), this owner had no control over the dog he had and it outweighed him by about 10kgs (apparently weights of up to 220lbs isn't uncommon)
I looked into them in this country at the time (would be nice to think about if I ever had the time, space and money, which isn't likely to happen in this lifetime!!!) and there are very few breeders in this country, one of them had waiting list that was over 2 years and would expect you to visit several times during the wait so they would be comfortable that you were the right person for the puppy (I think it was this breed, but could possibly have been the tiebtian mastiff)
They also showed them in the documentary in Russia (I think) where they are used as guard dogs against the wolves for the shepherds that still live in the hills with the flocks of sheep, put in with the lambs when they are puppies so they grow up with them, although there was one who apparently couldn't learn to leave the porcupines alone and consistently had barbs in his muzzle!!!
 
Glad she is back home - Caucasians are my absolute favourite breed but they are one hell of a dog - would not like your average thieving chav to end up with one parading the estate ;)
 
The yard I kept my horse at when I lived in Russia had four of these. The first time I met them, they stood in front of me and started barking, blocking my path (they are very suspicious of strangers). I am not usually afraid of dogs, but these dogs are MASSIVE and it's traditional to crop their ears closely, giving them a very fierce look, so I was a little apprehensive!

However once they knew me (and after giving them a couple of nice bones :)) they were fab. One used to escort me down the lane after dark, for about half a mile- I was never afraid of anyone assaulting me!

Glad to see this pup is back home- if a bull breed can do damage in the wrong hands, the thought of what these dogs may do if owned by an idiot terrifies me...
 
That's the thing, they are stock guardians, aren't they, and don't have the years of selective breeding to enable them to adapt to other jobs, I wish people wouldn't choose dogs like these for house pets in urban locations purely because of looks - if they decide they don't want to do X, Y, Z, how on earth is a person of average build going to stop them?
There are people now going for workingline GSDs because the very dark ones look amazing but there is a lot more to them than just a pet GSD in a pretty colour with a lovely big head, they are almost a breed apart at times in terms of their needs.
 
They are a Bulgarian/ Ukranian shepherd but like we use GSDs for a number of things, they use these but originally I think to fight off wolves from stock. Unfortunately they are used as fighting dogs as well but more in Europe than here :( We have one locally. Never off the lead though, will make anyone respect a dog.

They are about the size of saint Bernard :0 with a coat like a husky, thick and warm.
 
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