Re-schooling an ex racehorse

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Looking for advice on re-schooling my ex racer!

I've had my 4yr old ex racer for almost 8 weeks and I got him straight off the track. He's a flat racer and has never hacked or seen traffic.

When I got him I gave him a few weeks to chill out a bit. He's stabled 24/7 at the moment and goes on the walker once a day and ridden or lunged as well.
He gets turnout for around an hour every few days.

I started leading him out from another horse before I sat on him and he was chilled, no trouble at all. I then started lunging him (he's clearly never done this before!) He tends to fall in and stand and stare me on the lunge - he's much better on the left rein that the right rein. What's the best way to teach him to stay out? He's very good at voice aids and listens to these. At the moment everything is on his terms and he will stop when he wants to stop or he'll go as fast as he wants to go so trying to snap him out of that!

I've now started riding him and he's been very quiet and chilled. I have hacked him twice and we had a canter out on the track the second time (the first day we had a small canter, he was a bit strong but he stopped) and the next time he decided he'd gallop back to the stable yard - I learnt the hard way that pulling makes them go faster! I'm now wary of hacking him in case he decides to cart me home again - what's the best way to resolve this? I don't want him to learn he can do it again. I have only since just walked him around the farm but I no just school in the arena but worry he will get bored.

Regarding his schooling, he's got lovely paces, some day she can be quite lazy, he can also be pretty nappy. I want to teach him to bend properly and come onto a contact and start using his muscles- what's the best way to do this?

Someone also mentioned double line lunging - would this help? I'm worried about lunging with 2 lines just yet as often he will just come in and stand in front of me so don't want him with 2 lunge lines between his legs! Does he need to grasp normal lunging first?

He's very chilled and is great in the stable, to tie up etc. He will stand while I get on (just this weekend I got on from a block rather than a leg up).

I just worry when he takes a hold and decides to go as fast as he wants too! Hes ridden in a French link fulmer snaffle, previously I had him in a loose ring jointed snaffle.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated!
 
I have retrained tens of off the track TBs and it is not something you can learn from a discussion forum, I'm afraid. You need someone there with you to assess you and your horse. Do you have an instructor who is experienced in retraining racehorses? If not, you should get one. Also, why doesn't he get much turn out? Especially at this time of year, it seems unfair to have him in 24/7 and just going on a horse walker.
 
If you are asking these questions you need help in the real world from a trainer who can train you how to train your horse .
 
Ok - I wish I hadn't asked. Normally people are so friendly and helpful on here but I'll think again before posting anything in the future :( . I never judge - I just always try and help people. I'm in the process of finding an instructor that's experienced with them but in the meantime I was just looking for some ideas but I'll go elsewhere!
 
I agree with the above you need help from someone who can be hands on not via a forum, also regarding the limited turnout I would try and get him out more before he becomes fed up, he will be used to being in a lot but will also be used to far more work than you will be giving him, let him out to be a horse in his free time and you will benefit in the long term as much as he will, the ex racehorse living with me is turned out 24/7 all summer and loves it.
 
The fact he's in is because there is very little turnout at the moment (he's in with 7 others that aren't with the rest of the herd) hopefully in the next few weeks I can put him in with my other horse. It's not ideal, I'm aware of that
 
agree with wagtail completely. i have horses for decades since i was tiny but when I got a tricky exracer a few years ago i had to admit i just didn't have the skills to retrain it correctly. It would be well worth getting a pro in to work with you and give you a programme to follow. Or even send it away for schooling and get lessons off the person. It's honestly not something you can just get tips for, you need to do it properly or else the napping and acting up will get worse and worse.

The lack of turnout could be an issue for you. a few hours turnout a week isn't fair on the horse, and going on a walker isn't the same. the horse deserves time to chil out, have a hooley and play. if it doesn't get this i've a feeling you'l have issues down the line when he starts feeling well in himself. It will be well worth getting someone in who has retrained them before, otherwise you will just go round in circles.
 
Ok - I wish I hadn't asked. Normally people are so friendly and helpful on here but I'll think again before posting anything in the future :( . I never judge - I just always try and help people. I'm in the process of finding an instructor that's experienced with them but in the meantime I was just looking for some ideas but I'll go elsewhere!

I am not about to tell someone how to train a horse who has already run away with them over a forum when I have no idea what level of skill the rider has or what the horse is like .
 
Ok - I wish I hadn't asked. Normally people are so friendly and helpful on here but I'll think again before posting anything in the future :( . I never judge - I just always try and help people. I'm in the process of finding an instructor that's experienced with them but in the meantime I was just looking for some ideas but I'll go elsewhere!

No judging from me, just honest well meant advice. All I am trying to say is that tips given over a forum for what you describe are not what you and your horse needs. You need someone experienced with retraining racehorses there with you. You do not know what level of knowledge people have on here. They may be a horseperson competing at the top of their game or they might be a thirteen year old who helps out at the local riding school at weekends. You are at a very delicate stage in your horse's training and it would be dangerous to rely on tips given on a forum.
 
Please OP don't get offended. You asked for advice and the advice was to get an experienced trainer to help you in person. Retraining is often harder than starting a horse from scratch and their history can leave some scars (physically and mentally). Getting proper hands on help at the beginning will make both your and your ex racer's experience of the retraining process much better/safer. The lack of turnout certainly won't be helping the situation so it's even more important to get some professional support. Do it now while your horse is young and your partnership just starting and you will surely reap the rewards in the future x
 
2 weeks ago you posted a thread asking how to teach a racehorse not to gallop off. You clearly didn't bother paying attention to that thread if you have asked the same thing again.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...-Retraining-an-ex-racehorse-not-to-gallop-off!

I am pretty certain you are also the person who asked the same thing on a group on facebook the week before but with you coming off into farm machinery on concrete, ending up in hospital on Ketamine but strangely released the same day with major injuries...

Some one please pass me the popcorn!
 
2 weeks ago you posted a thread asking how to teach a racehorse not to gallop off. You clearly didn't bother paying attention to that thread if you have asked the same thing again.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/foru...-Retraining-an-ex-racehorse-not-to-gallop-off!

I am pretty certain you are also the person who asked the same thing on a group on facebook the week before but with you coming off into farm machinery on concrete, ending up in hospital on Ketamine but strangely released the same day with major injuries...

Some one please pass me the popcorn!


That certainly was not me that posted on Facebook - I haven't posted anything other than on this forum.
 
I agree with other posts.

I think you need some help.

I turned my boy away in a herd to learn how to be "a horse" again before bringing him back in t start work. We did everything very slowly to ensure he was never over faced or confused. He's still very young and he's already been taught one way to do things and you are now asking him to do something entirely different. I'm not sure galloping on a track when you are trying to convert from racer to riding horse is a very good idea at all!
 
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