Re sharers, how does it work for you???

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Adding to the sharer posts recently. For many years I just couldn't afford my own horse, although I rode as a child and teenager, when I left school got a job, my first house, married, working all hours etc it all meant getting one was pretty impossible.

I went to riding schools for quite a few years but got bored with having to trot when all the ride trotted and canter when the instructor said and not being able to do my own thing! Anyway I found out about sharing but finding a 'decent' horse was so hard! I tried out a youngster with no steering, a huge hairy cob that just wouldn't go, and a TB mare that was downright dangerous, although I did end up sharing her for a while (doh!) until I thought I would like to live a bit longer!

It's not that I was fussy, just wanted something that wasn't going to kill me and that I could hack out nicely and have the odd lesson on, not much to ask? Finally though I ended up with a 16.2 hunter type on DIY livery that I shared for about 3 years and he was great, although not what you'd call a novice ride as he was quite sharp he was only available for hacking as he had dodgy legs he was a dream in the stable good to catch great on roads, never bucked or reared etc etc etc and I was very happy. I paid £10 a week (we are talking about 12 years ago) which was much less than the riding school, I could do what I wanted with him and spend as much time riding and pampering as I liked! Then my twins came along, so I gave up riding again for about the next 5 years.

2 years ago though I thought I would bite the bullet, kids in school, me working part time, tiny bit of spare cash so went GG hunting. Have ended up with a fantastic cob, he's now 6, 16hh great round the stable, jump, clip, travel etc etc etc although not a novice ride as he can be quite spooky. Anyway I have advertised for a sharer as time and money have become tight again, time mostly. I advertised him honestly and put up some lovely pics but stressed the NOT A NOVICE RIDE and his SIZE!

I have had calls from 2 x 13 year old girls, one from a lady who wanted to teach her partner how to ride (assuming as he's a cob he would be 'easy' and quiet) a man who came to ride but was very novicey and the mum of a 11 year old girl who's pony mad and been riding at a riding school for a year! HE IS A 16HAND 6 YEAR OLD FULL UP HORSE! I was very polite to all these people and said he wouldn't be suitable, but where have all the sharers gone?

I was one once, a responsible, experienced adult willing to do stable duties, would turn up rain or shine whether I could ride that day or not and fully committed to the horse I shared. I treated him as my own and loved and cared for him very much. His owner and me have remained very good friends even though he's now gone to the big stable in the sky!

There's 3 other owners at my yard who'd love sharers one has a great 15.1 arab gelding, another a 15.3 TB ex race horse who's just a dream to ride and another 14.3 ex jumping mare, none are what you'd call novice rides but all sane and safe (as safe as any horse is) and above all genuine. 2 of the owners now have young kids, one is also pregnant again, and the third has a job with long hours.

Surely there must be people out there who are in the situation I was in, can't afford time or money for your own but a couple of days a week would be great? There seem to me more 'suitable' horses up for share/loan than when I was looking.

Is is that EVERYONE is just so short of time and money these days? Maybe it's the way society has changed?

Also I have heard about sharers that have been unreliable, unwilling to do jobs and one put an injured horse in it's stable in the evening and left the yard without saying anything to anyone!

Oh well just thought this might start some discussion and bring up some different experiences either from those wishing to share their horse, those wanting to share or those already doing it, how does it work for you??
 
Girl at our yard recently took on a 17yr old girl to share her tb mare(scatty,and known for lameness issues),however 17yr old told she would have to work her very steadily for a few months,build up gradually!!She and father agreed,now bearing in mind the mare only gets ridden by said girl at wkend,she turned up on saturday and absolutely hammered her(school 1st,mare full of it,instead of lunging for 5 mins before getting on),they,yes her and 2 friends took her down bottom field and galloped her stupid round the fields(taking it in turns),then brought her back up to the school and jumped and jumped and yes jumped some more(1hr and half gone past by this satge)!!Mare was blowing like crazy and dripping!!I went and had words,they then spent 30mins cooling her off!!Chucked her in box and left her with rugs on all sticky!!Following morning mare very tired,brought in that night swollen legs!!!And said girl came down next day and lunged her
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All i could do was speak to owner who knew nothing about 3 of them riding never mind the rest of it!!!I personally would never allow a sharer for my lad,would sooner leave him in a field!!!Am sure there are loads of people out there that would as when i was a kid did and look after a horse superbly,i just wouldnt want to take the risk of when i am not there watching!!!
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Theses people have put me off!!!
 
I ride April for someone. Suits me perfectly as I don't have time for my own horse.
I only get to ride at the weekends though as I work in London Mon-Fri. No-one else rides her as her owner does Western style - she's 21 though and doesn't need ridden every day.

I pay for her vet fees, shoes, insurance and any other 'extras'.
I also get all her unnecessary bits and bobs like numnahs, bandages etc.

To be honest I am more over cautious and would never treat a horse any differently just because it wasn't mine
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my friend has 3 sharers for her horse who has ringbone and copd, he can only do limited work and no jumping and they are all happy to cooperate with the owners wishes, she has now bought a new young horse to do jumping etc and she knows that her other horse is being well cared for and not being ridden into the ground, so she has no worries about the cost of 2 horses as the sharers cover all his bills and she has the time for her younger horse, both horses are kept at the same yard, i will ask her where she advertised and will pass info on, but i do know she did have loads of unsuitable people replying to the ad
 
I wish you were near me!! I was in exactly the same position as you for years, and to be honest am a really good sharer - reliable, experienced, flexible, and wouldn't dream of letting the owners down. When I went to uni I found the most fantastic pony to share on a lovely yard with such friendly people and could do whatever I liked with him and it was so great. Since I moved home last summer I have been looking for a share for ages and there's absolutely nothing, or if there is they want to charge the earth with 100's of rules of can and cant do's for the horses that just aren't worth the money, when actually I am an experienced adult rider who's willing to do all chores everything just for the enjoyment of it all! So I have finally given up now and am going to buy a youngster in the next month or two to bring on myself and I can't wait!! Yippee!!
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They are out there, I think it's just a case of luck and good-timing in finding them.
I have an absolutely fab sharer for my horse and consider myself very lucky. He has recently been injured and is on 3 months box rest, I told my sharer she could stop her payments if she wanted, but she said no, it was all part of the committment of having the horse
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Darnit why can't you be closer to me?

i share 2 horses 1 day a week each but pay nothing as owners wont accept. i turn up rain or shine, rideable or unrideable, do all yard duties and riding (horses are on DIY), and, when/if owners go on holiday, i take over totally with whatever horse i have (not always my loan horses, thats my job at the yard, i could run a business from it lol)

its a shame your not close to me, i would love to share a horse like yours. 16 hands, 6 yrs old and full up is my kinda horse! except my age would probably put you off - im 14. i have lots of years with different types of horses under my belt but its always my age lol. and im no small little girl, im 5'10
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to be honest, would you even consider me? im curious.
 
Alas I've found the same...lots of timewasters! I once found someone who was really interested and seemed perfect. Then she couldnt do it due to unforseen circumstances...a month later she turned up at the same yard, sharing another horse with a view to buying it!!!

In the end I put him on 24.7 turnout, much better than being stabled with limited turnout as I couldn't ride during the week. I'm still looking but mainly for someone to help out, ie grooming etc. And if they're still keen then I might let them ride and/or share! If they lose interest in the looking after then clearly they're not suitable. And I echo the thoughts of a post on here - they're better off in the field to exercise themselves thant in the hands of someone who doesn't know what theya re doing!

it's a shame though, there seem to be morehorses than sharers. Wish it was like that when I was younger!
 
Most people who are looking to share are complete beginners or children straight from a riding school. The majority of people these days seem to leap straight into buying a horse rather than sharing to gain more experience first.
I decided that it wasn't worth having a sharer for Fudge as they turned out to be unreliable or not experienced enough as he is green.
We have a couple of lovely beginners/very novice types who ride the quietest pony and horse at the yard and they are great, very reliable and enthusiastic although wouldn't cope with a green/quirky/spooky etc horse.
 
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Most people who are looking to share are complete beginners or children straight from a riding school. The majority of people these days seem to leap straight into buying a horse rather than sharing to gain more experience first.
I decided that it wasn't worth having a sharer for Fudge as they turned out to be unreliable or not experienced enough as he is green.
We have a couple of lovely beginners/very novice types who ride the quietest pony and horse at the yard and they are great, very reliable and enthusiastic although wouldn't cope with a green/quirky/spooky etc horse.

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i agree, most people go riding school - first horse

i've gone riding school - private competition yard (ish)- loaning/sharing - having little projects to work on - loaning/sharing.

but thats because i cannot afford a horse and my dad isnt at all interested in buying me one.
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I've been looking for about 8 months now and afraid to say all i've had is timewasters - and that is from those who work part time or think they can fit it in after work when they live miles away. I had someone who was so keen, but when she told me she worked about 60 miles from the stables even though she actually lived nearby I didnt' see the point in following it up as I thought (rightly or wrongly)that she would lose interest. I would've also had to train her up in horse care and stable management and after already going through quite a few timewasters decided not to bother! harsh though it sounds! Good luck to everyone after a sharer and well done to those who have found one - good ones are hard to find - it's not easy, as i've found!!
 
That is certainly not true to say all sharers are beginneres or novices, I am adult with 18yrs experience and I was a sharer for a long long time. I never over estimated my own capabilities and when I was young I had a lot of tution and did my own personal learning as much as could. When I was a teen worked for free at a riding school every spare minute for years until I finally got a share on not a novice horse which taught me alot which I wouldn't have learnt if I hadn't been given the chance, and I have been sharing ever since.

People think so negatively of sharers, possibly they are not good enough riders or do not know anything about stable management when actually it could just be they don't have the finances or time or the support that so many other horse owners have and so would like to share to enjoy the pleasure of horses. I am about to buy a horse and in no way feel that I am not capable enough or experienced enough to own and look after the horse just because I have always been a "sharer". I think it is a valuable stage in equestrian experience and the amount of irresponsible horse owners out there these days would have probably benifited from a few years "sharing"!
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For me the issue isn't whether they are good enough riders or don't know enough about stable management..if they are really really keen and live local enough and are able to fit it into their schedule (ie it's abit unrealistic if they live 60 miles away) then I'm prepared to give it a go, and i'm pretty flexible and not controlling like some owners can be, as I helped out with tons of different ponies when I was younger and was given responsibility of looking after horses int he owners absence. Sadly I've found out that people don't seem to want to work for free every spare minute they have, they soon get fed up..or underestimate how much time they're willing to spend with the horse....or maybe i've just been very unlucky!!
 
I would love a share. I worry though that I wouldn't be able to offer the owner enough experience.

I rode for 8 years then stopped after having a bad fall. Have resolved my confidence issue and would like to start again. Problem is finding a decent riding school! At the moment, I live in Portsmouth, but will be soon moving back to London.

I would love to be able to help someone out! I feel i'm too old to be a "saturday helper" at a riding school! But I miss all the chores!

I have to admit, i'm fairly shocked at the cheek of some sharers reported by owners on here! I'd never be so bold!

If anyone wants me, get in touch!!!
 
I'd never had anything to do with sharing, either as owner or sharer until I started sharing Otto.
Almost didn't happen as owner wanted a financial contribution but I knew I would have to re-school him and teach the owner. Luckily the owner said she really wanted me to share him but felt it would be completely wrong to charge me for the priveledge of teaching her and bring her horse on.....hence I dont pay anything
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I have him every evening and all weekend. Owner rides mon - fri in morning turns out and mucks out. I get him in, feed and put to bed. We have a note book which we write in what he has done each day so his work is kept varied.
From her point of view she never has to worry I wont turn up or that he wont be looked after properly. She uses me as a knowledge base for any thing she's not sure off and we discuss all aspects of his care, health and progess regualrly.
Fro my part I get a horse with huge scope that would not be able to buy financially. I dont have to pay for his keep so have plenty of funds to compete him.
I guess I'm not the average sharer having owned my own since 1967 but I'm sure there are others like me out there.
The really good bit about the share though is we get on very well and both think Otto is the best thing since sliced bread.
Long may it continue.
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I understand what you mean. I hope you find someone suitable soon though, despite all the negative things you hear about sharers there are some good ones out there!! Promise!!
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Thanks to everyone who replied to my post it was really interesting to hear the sharing thing from both sides!

Although he's 6 my horse isn't what I would call green he's jumped done sponsered rides, dressage, shown, done Parelli, Le Trec and hunted, he really is a genuine, decent, well put together horse but not for a novice, he was spooky tonight bringing in (mainly my fault as he was last but one to come in) and reared up coming into the yard, he doesn't do it every day but he was looking for something to spook at all the way in and a car splashing in a puddle was it! Although I am ready for him and can read his 'mood' I think it would put the 'willies' up a less experienced or confident person.

As for the post from Loopy Lurcher Lover (where DID you get that name?!) I suppose I would be looking for an adult sharer as they are more likely to have own transport and my GG really is a full up guy if you know what I mean! then again I am 5ft 5 so not as tall as you, but I suppose experience is what's wanted by most owners as well as commitment and suppose experience comes with age, in most cases.

When I was 14 though I was riding my sisters manic PBA going out for hours on my own and having a great time! Then again the roads weren't so busy back when I was a teenager.

I would have to see you ride and discuss what you would be able to commit to time wise I suppose! Also it's a big responsibility not only loaning a horse but sharing one too. I know I am biased, but if my horse had come up when I was looking to share I wouldn't have given him up for anything! Ditto Nicola S you both sound perfect!!

When I gave up my share, as I was pregnant, quite a few people came up to me at the yard and said if I ever wanted to share their horse in the future I could have first refusal! Suppose they had seen that I was responsible, honest and reliable and rode OK, sometimes its not till people get to know you that the trust sets in, but I was actually very honoured as I knew how much they all adored their horses!

Any hints on where to advertise though would be most helpful to all at my yard who need some extra help!
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As for the post from Loopy Lurcher Lover (where DID you get that name?!) I suppose I would be looking for an adult sharer as they are more likely to have own transport and my GG really is a full up guy if you know what I mean! then again I am 5ft 5 so not as tall as you, but I suppose experience is what's wanted by most owners as well as commitment and suppose experience comes with age, in most cases.

When I was 14 though I was riding my sisters manic PBA going out for hours on my own and having a great time! Then again the roads weren't so busy back when I was a teenager.

I would have to see you ride and discuss what you would be able to commit to time wise I suppose! Also it's a big responsibility not only loaning a horse but sharing one too. I know I am biased, but if my horse had come up when I was looking to share I wouldn't have given him up for anything! Ditto Nicola S you both sound perfect!!



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yea you have the opinion i would expect - rather have an adult for transport reasons, commitment, experience, maturity etc

but it doesnt bother me ATM cause im not looking for a share/loan - i have 2 shares for the moment, another horse someone wants me to loan and a young friesian who will soon enough be added to my list of loans/shares once the "breaking" process has been completed (owner wants to do it by herself) lol

Oh and the Name Loopy-Lurcher-Lover - i am not quite sure
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its my name on many forums and i intend to keep it that way - although some forums i go by lucy-lemon (well dogpages and lurcher link) because i dont know why
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i think i usually say
Loopy- because im mad and so are my hounds
Lurcher-Lover = because i love lurchers

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The best place I can suggest to advertise would be www.newrider.com as this is where I found my new boy who i've just taken on full loan.

Regarding sharers I think it is incredibly hard to tar them all with the same brush. Personally I have been riding since I was 5 (I am now nearing 21) and in this time I have had my fair share of horses be it my own, ones i've shared/loaned or ones i've just found myself exercising or schooling, as well as having worked at a hacking stables for several years as an extremely eager 12yo and working at a highly regarded dressage yard for the best part of 5 years (in which I learnt most of what I know now). Unfortunately when I left university to take a gap year before going back to full time education, I had to part with my beautiful NF mare with whom i'd worked with since she was backed. At which point I decided to take a break from horses and clear some of my ghastly student debts. I am now half way through my degree, living with my wonderful OH and after a year of watching my funds and time to ensure I have enough of both for a new project, I have taken on full loan of a lovely 4yo cob with the current agreement being that I have him for a year and then to re-evaluate things and check that the needs of horse, owner and myself are still being met.

My experiences of shares range from fantastic experiences which shaped my knowledge of what horse ownership involved right through to the downright dreadful where despite the owner needing a sharer due to lack of time, I was required to contact the owner an hour before I intended to ride to ensure she was at the yard to supervise and unlock her tack for me. I decided to opt out of this particular agreement when I found out she had signed me up for several shows that summer and that I was paying to be her show rider.

That said though I think the RIGHT share agreement can work for all parties involved. In saying right, I mean one where both owner and sharer know exactly what is expected of them and also keep good communication as ultimately the horses welfare should be paramount. As a youngster I had several horses on part loan (as I just kept growing!) with an agreement that my mother would supervise me or that I would have a months trial where the owner could supervise me to ensure their horse was treated well, and I learnt tons from these experiences and it would be a shame to think that other eager youngsters (I treated all my shared horses as if they were my own!) weren't being given such opportunities as girls like hadfos described are ruining it for them.

I also think people should think about all the time and money they will need before rushing into any form of loan/share agreement, as i think a lot of people overestimate how much time they actually have spare (I know I probably wouldn't have enough time when deadlines are looming if it weren't for my wonderful OH popping down to do the horses). At the end of the day people have to realise that sharing a horse is still a huge commitment as that horses welfare is dependent on them when it is their day to do the horses and that not turning up is not an option!

Sorry if this has turned into a bit of a rant am stuck at home with chicken pox feeling sorry for myself as I just wanna be out riding my new boy.
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