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These are the stories that appeared at the time. The last one, from the Independent on Sunday 18.11.07, has the version described by Ivor Annetts - which is quite different from what she was saying in 2006.
If you go to the Newshound website, there are links to the stories in the November 2007 page - http://www.newshound.org.uk/November 2007.htm - but I think most of the local paper website links will have changed by now.
Stroud News & Journal 8.2.06
'Slap Asbos on hunts'
by Sian Davies
FED-UP Elcombe residents are calling for ASBOs to be issued against members of the Cotswold Hunt because they say its hounds continually cause havoc on their land.
In October, 10 angry householders wrote to the hunt asking it to keep hounds off their property.
But on Thursday residents say they saw hounds on their land again.
Householder Denise Ward said: "We heard a terrible noise and looked out to see a whole pack of hounds coming down through the woodlands opposite us - which is private land.
"They went down over the Trantershill Plantation which is also private land and into my neighbour's garden.
"Then there was this terrible screaming noise which could have been a fox or a deer.
"When they were gone I went up there and found fresh blood."
She reported the incident to the police and forensic tests are being carried out.
Mrs Ward and her neighbour, Jeanne Berry, who claims the hounds also crossed her land, both say Anti-Social Behaviour Orders would solve the problem.
ASBOs can ban people from committing anti-social offences and prohibit them from entering a specified area.
They have become synonymous with so-called 'chav culture' - a world away from the hunting set.
Besides the disturbance, Mrs Berry is worried about the safety of her pets cats.
She has now asked a solicitor to begin a civil action for trespassing. "Why can't they be given ASBOs? If it was a teenager doing it they would be given one straight away," she said.
The Andoversford-based hunt said nothing was killed and that every effort is made to keep hounds off private land.
However, Bob Cooper, a senior master, admitted one or two hounds may have strayed.
"We know about the Elcombe situation and have sent notification of when we're in the area to those residents," he said.
"As far as we're aware the hounds didn't go on private land.
"However a couple may have strayed from the rest of the pack but if the whole pack was there the huntsman would have been with them."
He declined to comment on the calls for an ASBO.
Jeanne Berry and Denise Ward. Mrs Berry says her cats are at risk from the hounds
Western Daily Press 9.2.06
CALL FOR HUNT TO GET ASBO
10:25 - 09 February 2006
A West hunt is "anti-social" and should be given an Asbo to make it stay away from a Gloucestershire valley, according to an angry landowner. The claim, by local landowner Jeanne Berry, follows complaints about the Cotswold Hunt's hounds running across people's gardens.
Police are also probing claims the hunt illegally killed an animal on private woodland high in the Slad Valley, near Stroud, last week.
As part of their investigation, officers have taken DNA samples of bloodstains found in a clearing, the Western Daily Press can reveal.
But a hunt spokeswoman strenuously denied the claims yesterday and say they have done nothing wrong.
The police probe began after a complaint from Mrs Berry, who said she was distraught after finding bloodstains in her wood, and demanded legal action against the hunt.
She is hiring a solicitor to apply for an anti-social behaviour order against the hunt, preventing it from going near her land at Elcombe. She said: "Last October, hounds from the hunt were out of control over various people's gardens in Elcombe and I wrote to the hunt and then again with a petition letter signed by many of my neighbours complaining and asking them not to trespass again.
"We had a letter back apologising for one or two hounds going into people's gardens - it wasn't, it was more - but we thought that would do the trick, and they wouldn't be back, but we were wrong.
Last week they were back." It is claimed hounds from the hunt ran across Mrs Berry's land - although she wasn't at home at the time.
Mrs Berry said: "I went there later on and there was blood on the ground, but whatever had been killed wasn't there any more." A police spokesman said:
"Gloucestershire police are investigating allegations that illegal hunting took place on land near Elcombe.
"As part of this investigation a blood sample has been taken from the scene for forensic examination." Mrs Berry said: "Their letter apologised for any damage caused by the hounds, but it's not about the damage, it's about wildlife and the principle of the thing.
"I've engaged a specialist solicitor from Devon and obviously this is going to cost me money." Mrs Berry said she would start by trying to obtain an injunction on the hunt preventing them from coming near her land.
She said having dogs running across people's land was "anti-social" and unacceptable.
"Why can't we put Asbos on them?" she said.
"If they were a bunch of lads with motorbikes and pitbulls then the police would do that straight away." Last night the Cotswold Hunt vehemently denied breaking the law, or even trespassing on Mrs Berry's land last week.
Delly Everard, from the Countryside Alliance's Wessex region, spoke on behalf of the hunt and said she feared people had misunderstood the hunting with dogs ban to mean hunts were illegal too.
She said: "The Cotswold Hunt maintain that not a single rider and not even the hounds trespassed last Thursday. The hunt is well aware of where they can and can't go and there were riders posted along the line to stop the hounds."
ALTHOUGH hunting with dogs is banned, hunts are still legally riding out with hounds, and can - under certain conditions - find and kill foxes and other wild mammals.
The spokeswoman added:
"Not a single hound crossed that line, although they were barking and that is probably what local residents heard.
They didn't even catch a fox that day. I think people see a hunt and assume they are breaking the law." Cotswold Hunt joint master Bob Cooper confirmed they had a letter of complaint from an incident last autumn that they had replied to, and that there was an "issue" with land at Elcombe.
He said: "When we went there about 12 weeks ago it was the first time we'd been there for 30-odd years, so problems arose because of that .
"Then, last Thursday, we were there again. As far as I'm aware none of our hounds got into that wood.
Our hunt staff called them off and said none of them had trespassed.
"We are quite happy that they never got in there. We only hunt a trail and it is not our intention to hunt live quarry. Residents would hear the hounds and maybe they misunderstood what was happening."
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayN...yContent&sourceNode=145792&contentPK=13988161
These are the stories that appeared at the time. The last one, from the Independent on Sunday 18.11.07, has the version described by Ivor Annetts - which is quite different from what she was saying in 2006.
If you go to the Newshound website, there are links to the stories in the November 2007 page - http://www.newshound.org.uk/November 2007.htm - but I think most of the local paper website links will have changed by now.
Stroud News & Journal 8.2.06
'Slap Asbos on hunts'
by Sian Davies
FED-UP Elcombe residents are calling for ASBOs to be issued against members of the Cotswold Hunt because they say its hounds continually cause havoc on their land.
In October, 10 angry householders wrote to the hunt asking it to keep hounds off their property.
But on Thursday residents say they saw hounds on their land again.
Householder Denise Ward said: "We heard a terrible noise and looked out to see a whole pack of hounds coming down through the woodlands opposite us - which is private land.
"They went down over the Trantershill Plantation which is also private land and into my neighbour's garden.
"Then there was this terrible screaming noise which could have been a fox or a deer.
"When they were gone I went up there and found fresh blood."
She reported the incident to the police and forensic tests are being carried out.
Mrs Ward and her neighbour, Jeanne Berry, who claims the hounds also crossed her land, both say Anti-Social Behaviour Orders would solve the problem.
ASBOs can ban people from committing anti-social offences and prohibit them from entering a specified area.
They have become synonymous with so-called 'chav culture' - a world away from the hunting set.
Besides the disturbance, Mrs Berry is worried about the safety of her pets cats.
She has now asked a solicitor to begin a civil action for trespassing. "Why can't they be given ASBOs? If it was a teenager doing it they would be given one straight away," she said.
The Andoversford-based hunt said nothing was killed and that every effort is made to keep hounds off private land.
However, Bob Cooper, a senior master, admitted one or two hounds may have strayed.
"We know about the Elcombe situation and have sent notification of when we're in the area to those residents," he said.
"As far as we're aware the hounds didn't go on private land.
"However a couple may have strayed from the rest of the pack but if the whole pack was there the huntsman would have been with them."
He declined to comment on the calls for an ASBO.
Jeanne Berry and Denise Ward. Mrs Berry says her cats are at risk from the hounds
Western Daily Press 9.2.06
CALL FOR HUNT TO GET ASBO
10:25 - 09 February 2006
A West hunt is "anti-social" and should be given an Asbo to make it stay away from a Gloucestershire valley, according to an angry landowner. The claim, by local landowner Jeanne Berry, follows complaints about the Cotswold Hunt's hounds running across people's gardens.
Police are also probing claims the hunt illegally killed an animal on private woodland high in the Slad Valley, near Stroud, last week.
As part of their investigation, officers have taken DNA samples of bloodstains found in a clearing, the Western Daily Press can reveal.
But a hunt spokeswoman strenuously denied the claims yesterday and say they have done nothing wrong.
The police probe began after a complaint from Mrs Berry, who said she was distraught after finding bloodstains in her wood, and demanded legal action against the hunt.
She is hiring a solicitor to apply for an anti-social behaviour order against the hunt, preventing it from going near her land at Elcombe. She said: "Last October, hounds from the hunt were out of control over various people's gardens in Elcombe and I wrote to the hunt and then again with a petition letter signed by many of my neighbours complaining and asking them not to trespass again.
"We had a letter back apologising for one or two hounds going into people's gardens - it wasn't, it was more - but we thought that would do the trick, and they wouldn't be back, but we were wrong.
Last week they were back." It is claimed hounds from the hunt ran across Mrs Berry's land - although she wasn't at home at the time.
Mrs Berry said: "I went there later on and there was blood on the ground, but whatever had been killed wasn't there any more." A police spokesman said:
"Gloucestershire police are investigating allegations that illegal hunting took place on land near Elcombe.
"As part of this investigation a blood sample has been taken from the scene for forensic examination." Mrs Berry said: "Their letter apologised for any damage caused by the hounds, but it's not about the damage, it's about wildlife and the principle of the thing.
"I've engaged a specialist solicitor from Devon and obviously this is going to cost me money." Mrs Berry said she would start by trying to obtain an injunction on the hunt preventing them from coming near her land.
She said having dogs running across people's land was "anti-social" and unacceptable.
"Why can't we put Asbos on them?" she said.
"If they were a bunch of lads with motorbikes and pitbulls then the police would do that straight away." Last night the Cotswold Hunt vehemently denied breaking the law, or even trespassing on Mrs Berry's land last week.
Delly Everard, from the Countryside Alliance's Wessex region, spoke on behalf of the hunt and said she feared people had misunderstood the hunting with dogs ban to mean hunts were illegal too.
She said: "The Cotswold Hunt maintain that not a single rider and not even the hounds trespassed last Thursday. The hunt is well aware of where they can and can't go and there were riders posted along the line to stop the hounds."
ALTHOUGH hunting with dogs is banned, hunts are still legally riding out with hounds, and can - under certain conditions - find and kill foxes and other wild mammals.
The spokeswoman added:
"Not a single hound crossed that line, although they were barking and that is probably what local residents heard.
They didn't even catch a fox that day. I think people see a hunt and assume they are breaking the law." Cotswold Hunt joint master Bob Cooper confirmed they had a letter of complaint from an incident last autumn that they had replied to, and that there was an "issue" with land at Elcombe.
He said: "When we went there about 12 weeks ago it was the first time we'd been there for 30-odd years, so problems arose because of that .
"Then, last Thursday, we were there again. As far as I'm aware none of our hounds got into that wood.
Our hunt staff called them off and said none of them had trespassed.
"We are quite happy that they never got in there. We only hunt a trail and it is not our intention to hunt live quarry. Residents would hear the hounds and maybe they misunderstood what was happening."
http://www.westpress.co.uk/displayN...yContent&sourceNode=145792&contentPK=13988161