Recommendations to fatten up fizzy young horse

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Please can you recommend something for my PRE. He's dropped off a little over the winter months and I want to add condition - however he's fizzy.

I have read a lot of things about Calm & Condition but mixed reviews have made me decide against it. Top Spec Cool Cubes have good reviews but I don't want to have to add a balancer too.

He's currently fed non-heating cubes and Dengie HiFi Molasses free. I would prefer to switch to another cube if possible. Has anyone used Baileys Top Line Conditioning Cubes ?? The write up looks good and I like the fact they also contain minerals, but really don't need anything to blow his mind.

Thanks in advance, Emma x
 
baileys top line cubes sent my Arab mental so did the top spec ones they both contain molasses which is what mine are sensitive to I think so i made the diet as natural as possible, if his fizzy I would try micronised linseed or copra this is what I feed mine although mine tend to keep there weight but they are fine on both, and I just feed the graze on green chaff which is just chopped grass and unmolassed sugar beet, they never get any molasses or anything high starch.
 
So I could keep his current diet but just add micronised linseed to it ?? Which form is best - oil or cooked linseed or flakes ???

Slobbermash looks good but I think it might be too fiddly - he's on livery.

Definitely do not need any more fizz !
 
Bailey's Topline Cubes are great for putting on weight, but does make our fairly placid horse quite lively, so I imagine might not be the best choice for your horse! What brand of non-heating cubes are you using at the moment? Not all feeds are as non-heating as they claim!

It definitely would be an idea to add something oil-rich to his diet as this will supply a very dense form of calories without too much sugar/starch. There are lots of options - micronised linseed, Baileys Outshine, Equijewel, Copra and even good old vegetable oil. They all have various advantages/disadvantages and everyone has their own particular favourite.
 
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So I could keep his current diet but just add micronised linseed to it ?? Which form is best - oil or cooked linseed or flakes ???

Slobbermash looks good but I think it might be too fiddly - he's on livery.

Definitely do not need any more fizz ![/QUOTE

Its really not fiddly - just add water for a few mins and none of ours have fizzed off it
Best of luck with whichever you go with
 
I highly highly recommend Simple System. All their feeds are unmollassed so won't fizz him up. I've had huge success with their feeds on fizzy horses and good doers. Their helpline is very helpful :)
 
Have a look at Saracen Re-Leve. Low Starch, Sugar and high in oil. I am trying my mare on it as Calm and Condition has made her much more stressy.
 
Think you just have to experiment a bit, the baileys cubes are very well tolerated by my horse,who's a very poor doer but is incredibly sensitive to what feels like 99% of feeds! He likes them(always a battle) & they don't hot him up,which many,many feeds do. He has them with oats & linseed, & has kept weight on nicely this winter. I've also used the top spec condition in the past & they're very good. I avoid products with predominantly alfalfa as he can't cope with much of that.
 
Before looking at fattening feeds I would look at his forage - is he on ad-lib? If not then put him on that first. If he is then look at the analysis of the forage - does he need perhaps a forage with a higher protein (not sugar/starch but the other constituents). then look at finding a forage balancer such as forageplus, progressive earth, equimins to mention a few - if he is getting all the minerals he needs, and in the ratios he needs then he will utilise what food he gets more efficiently.

PREs are usually good doers so as a young horse you don't want to overfeed him or you are storing up trouble for later years.
 
I am just about to start my horse on Sarcen EquiJewel which gets food reviews and when I spoke to their helpline they were very helpful. I have to be careful with the Baileys conditioning cubes - if I feed enough to actually be effective they make my horse too sharp. I can literally tell when he has had a few extra in his feed.
 
Baileys outshine, pure feeds, cool stance or powerstance, milk pellets, soya flakes.

If you want to put weight on hi fi is not the best chaff to be feeding either
 
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