Benefice1
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Hi, could someone please tell me the correct aids to teach reinback?
Want to make sure I'm asking for the right thing!
Thankies
Want to make sure I'm asking for the right thing!
Thankies
Reinback?
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Hutchie
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Got this from Wiki...
To perform the rein-back, the rider applies both leg aids and a resisting hand. The leg asks the horse to move, but the hand prevents the horse from going forward, so it instead releases that energy in a step back. As soon as the horse begins to step back, the aids are released. The rein-back should be performed in a straight line, with the rider's legs used softly behind the girth to keep the hindquarters straight.
The upper body of the rider stays upright, leaning neither forward nor back. Leaning back is especially bad, as it drives the seat bones of the rider into the horse, causing the animal to hollow its back.
It is sometimes useful to transfer the weight of the seat onto the thighs when asking for the rein back, so that the horse may easily round up through its back and engage its hind end.
When the rider wishes the horse to stop moving back, the rider sits deeper into his seat, adds more leg, and lightens his contact with the horse's mouth.
To perform the rein-back, the rider applies both leg aids and a resisting hand. The leg asks the horse to move, but the hand prevents the horse from going forward, so it instead releases that energy in a step back. As soon as the horse begins to step back, the aids are released. The rein-back should be performed in a straight line, with the rider's legs used softly behind the girth to keep the hindquarters straight.
The upper body of the rider stays upright, leaning neither forward nor back. Leaning back is especially bad, as it drives the seat bones of the rider into the horse, causing the animal to hollow its back.
It is sometimes useful to transfer the weight of the seat onto the thighs when asking for the rein back, so that the horse may easily round up through its back and engage its hind end.
When the rider wishes the horse to stop moving back, the rider sits deeper into his seat, adds more leg, and lightens his contact with the horse's mouth.
kerilli
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i don't like that much.
first, the halt must be square, don't even try to rein back from a raggedy halt, keep doing walk - halt transitions until the halt is square. then, keep light even contact on both reins, and slide both lower legs back - this is the rein-back aid, more than anything else, and doing it this way prevents resistance, hollowing, etc, because you are keeping a light contact only on the reins, there's nothing for the horse to object to.
you might need someone on the ground to give a push on the horse's chest to give him the idea at first, and use your voice to say Back to begin with. slightly lightening the seat helps too, if you can.
a few steps at first is a success, and deserves praise.. and always walk forward immediately after the rein-back, to keep the horse thinking forward.
first, the halt must be square, don't even try to rein back from a raggedy halt, keep doing walk - halt transitions until the halt is square. then, keep light even contact on both reins, and slide both lower legs back - this is the rein-back aid, more than anything else, and doing it this way prevents resistance, hollowing, etc, because you are keeping a light contact only on the reins, there's nothing for the horse to object to.
you might need someone on the ground to give a push on the horse's chest to give him the idea at first, and use your voice to say Back to begin with. slightly lightening the seat helps too, if you can.
a few steps at first is a success, and deserves praise.. and always walk forward immediately after the rein-back, to keep the horse thinking forward.
camilla4
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I agree with Kerilli's description of the aids but would just add, do make sure that the horse is stepping in two-time i.e with diagonal pairs of legs, rather than a four-time walking pace.
BID
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Sorry to hijack your post but I am trying to perfect my boys reinback at the mo, he will only do 2 strides and 3 if I am lucky and always swings his quaters to the right. When I got him as a 4 year old he came from a showjumping yard and couldn't halt without immediately doing rein back which I painstakingly worked on to get him out of. Now I am struggling to get a quality rein back, any tips?
Kat
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If the horse isn't familiar with the movement it may help to use a voice aid "back" and even have a helper on the ground to ask in the way you would in the stable.
Silverspring
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Got this from Wiki...
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I stopped reading at this point...dare say it was written by a Yank that probably hasn't ever sat on a horse before.
Most young horse will naturally step back when you move your weight forward in the stand position.
Having someone on the ground is a help at first and I personally prefer a voice command or noise (though if you plan to compete dressage you it's best not to as rein back is introduced at medium level and you can't make a noise in the dressage arena!)
I don't like to see people pull or put pressue in the reins, a horse should move back based on the riders seat and leg aid. Lean forward (but not taking your ass out the saddle) move your legs up the horse sides and squeeze. I have yet to find an intelliegnt horse that doesn't at least think about going backward when the rider on top does this for the first time.
Got this from Wiki...
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I stopped reading at this point...dare say it was written by a Yank that probably hasn't ever sat on a horse before.
Most young horse will naturally step back when you move your weight forward in the stand position.
Having someone on the ground is a help at first and I personally prefer a voice command or noise (though if you plan to compete dressage you it's best not to as rein back is introduced at medium level and you can't make a noise in the dressage arena!)
I don't like to see people pull or put pressue in the reins, a horse should move back based on the riders seat and leg aid. Lean forward (but not taking your ass out the saddle) move your legs up the horse sides and squeeze. I have yet to find an intelliegnt horse that doesn't at least think about going backward when the rider on top does this for the first time.
Silverspring
Well-Known Member
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Sorry to hijack your post but I am trying to perfect my boys reinback at the mo, he will only do 2 strides and 3 if I am lucky and always swings his quaters to the right.
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Most horse's can do a stride or 2 no problem but 3 or more takes balance. Horse's swing their quarter to their strong side as that back leg is liekly to be able to take more weight.
I would say stride at time to begin with, do it every schooling session at random intervals (otherwise as you know they just start doing it out of habit!) As for the ass swinging, you should arrange a line of poles walk through then back up in. Walk down, halt, rein back. The poles will guide the horse on when he's moving to either side and hoepfully encourage him not to.
Sorry to hijack your post but I am trying to perfect my boys reinback at the mo, he will only do 2 strides and 3 if I am lucky and always swings his quaters to the right.
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Most horse's can do a stride or 2 no problem but 3 or more takes balance. Horse's swing their quarter to their strong side as that back leg is liekly to be able to take more weight.
I would say stride at time to begin with, do it every schooling session at random intervals (otherwise as you know they just start doing it out of habit!) As for the ass swinging, you should arrange a line of poles walk through then back up in. Walk down, halt, rein back. The poles will guide the horse on when he's moving to either side and hoepfully encourage him not to.