Relaxing and slowing down overcooked SJ pony

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I posted about this a couple of months ago, and just wanted to update and see if anyone has any other ideas! I got this lovely 148cm 8 year old jumper from a horrible dealer who was giving him away as a lost cause. He'd been jumping 1.20m+ and had 'overcooked' they said he was broncing and being a pain (all they did was jump him). He hasn't bucked once since I've had him, had his back checked and he had a month or so off in the field, and since January has been hacking a couple of times a week and schooling once or twice a week.

He's a funny little bug - quite highly strung (not sure of breeding, but looks like native x TB), but very light to handle both on the ground and in the saddle. He's not strong or nasty at all.

Out hacking he's a star - very bombproof, walks out now, started lengthening/relaxing in trot, really enjoys it. He's even popped over a log and didn't get at all excited. In canter he's a bit weird - even with a couple of other horses going in a fast canter, he just bounces along in a SJ canter, even if you give all the reins and put the leg on, he keeps rocking along - doesn't look like he's uncomfortable, almost that he doesn't really understand that he can lengthen and stretch out.

In the school, he hasn't seen a jump since we got him, and has mostly been walking with a bit of trotting. Now in walk he's striding out better, coming into an outline - doesn't want to stretch down much though. In trot he sometimes does a reasonable trot, but usually with head in the air, and then will sometimes hop and try and break into canter. He doesn't try and go fast. Then when you go back to walk he hops and skips like he wants to do an acute transition into canter.

He is not strong at all, currently in a loose ring double joint snaffle with sweet iron and copper ring rollers in the middle. When he's doing his hopping and bouncing he doesn't pull at all, in fact comes off the bit completely.

He's got superb paces when he relaxes, so would love to reschool for dressage and showing as he would excel if he can calm down a bit..!

I wondered about riding him bitless (in a Dually or similar) to see if that makes a difference, and then try riding bareback (but with a bridle in) and rule out any hang ups with his mouth or saddling. He was ridden very harshly in his previous home (I've seen video) by a man so wouldn't surprise me if he's been yanked around.

Any pointers/experiences? Am interested in any ideas including Western training methods - a friend suggested rollbacks to slow him down.
 
Personally I would say stick to working on schooling out hacking and work it from there back to the school, going to take a while but im sure he will come round.
I would end the hack in the school with a walk around and build from there.

Good luck!
 
What about a bit of positive reinforcement (OK treats to you and me) just to try and quickly break the habit.

Up to now I guess that schools have been a place of anxiety, so you want to make it fun and let him know he is doing the right thing.

Basically, catch that lovely calm moment and give him a treat. If you want to be more systematic about your training then clicker training is very focussed, but you can just use the principal and probably get there quite quickly. I have had a couple of school sour horses and found that using +ve reinforement, even badly, changes their attitude pretty much instantly!

Here is an article which may give you food for thought.

http://www.hannahdawsonequine.co.uk/clicker-training/clicking-for-calmness/
 
If he's happy with what you are doing just now i would just keep it up as how you have described him in the school is unfortunatly how alot of jumping ponies go, they will canter more than any other gait so thats probably why he keeps trying to break as probably anticipating thats what you want him to do.

We have had a few JA ponies come onto the yard that have been exactly the same, super buzzy in the school, it just takes abit of time retraining them to slow everything down as all they have known is to wizz around jumps and it doesn't matter were the head is as long as they are clearing the fences!

So yeh lots of hacking keeping everything quiet and encouraging to stretch down into your contact and the same when you are in the school keeping everything simple, i wouldn't canter him until you can get him going around softly in trot without him trying to break and then move onto some canter work? It will take time but i'm sure it will all be worth it in the end :)
 
I used to ride a 138 similar. It took us 6 months to just ride around jumps left up in the arena and we gradually would just pop ove a pole on the ground and go back to schooling. Did this for a further few months until he did it relaxed. I then started putting them up to jumps and then started putting fences together all the time remaining calm and if I felt him getting tense we'd either go on a quick hack and come back or go back to schooling.

Lateral work was very helpful as it was his safe zone, when he got tense we'd come back and play with the leg yield, shoulder in/ fore and half pass and he'd relax again.

It was a long slow process with lots of ups and downs but he is now out pony clubbing and loving life.
 
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