Remedial shoes - your input, please

Oberon

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Those of you who have had horses shod in remedial shoes....

Please could you list your diagnosis and the type of shoes your horse had?

It's for an assignment I am doing and I need ideas beyond heart bars and wedges :D
 

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My big lad had Steward Clogs in front and no shoes behind..

He had pedal rotation and a whole host of other things going on in his feet..

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My pony had laminitis with pedal bone rotation (can't remember what degree as it was 12 years ago now).
He had glue on shoes on his fronts for 3 shoeing at 4 week intervals.

Any more information required, or does that suffice?
 

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The EDSS system has alsorts of alternative remedial solutions..

We also used layers of foam pads and plastic hoof sized plating taped on..
 

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Mine had/has a severe case of laminitis - pedal bone dropped and rotated to a critical degree, described as about 1mm from penetrating the sole, no stabilisation until about 6 weeks in.

She is now on her third set of plastic Imprint shoes (fronts only, every five weeks, barefoot behind). Huge improvement from day one of Imprints. She will wear these until she's grown a new foot (basically!) - thereafter the vet has recommended traditional heart bars but I am hoping to explore boots instead.

I have x-rays, pictures etc. if required.
 

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Horse was diagnosed with severe sidebones in both fronts (x-rays below)

Dutch Vet recommended, Heart Bar Shoes with a severe rolled toe to help him breakover and gelled pads for concussion.

After a lot of research I went against this advice, took him barefoot with hoof boots for hard ground and hacking out and we have been 100% sound for almost a year.

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My lad had a diagnosis of navicular, collateral ligament damage and pedal osteitis. He was initially put into wedges but then taken back to natural balance and ultimately as you know, has had shoes removed and gone barefoot.

Heart bar shoes were discussed but I was very reluctant so these weren't used. :)
 

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It's interesting that we are veering away from bar shoes.. Maje tried them and they completely crippled him, even the vet insisted they were removed.. The farrier wouldn't though.. So changed farrier and got a sound/comfortable horse straight away..
 

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None of these were mine, but all were at my yard and I was the one to hold for vets/farriers so they may be of use

1. Imprint shoes for laminitis - miniature mare so would have been very difficult to make metal shoes to fit (and nail them in :eek:)
2. Reverse shoeing for laminitis - an 'older' vet that swore by them
3. Hospital plates for pedal fracture/bone infection which needed regular flushing (horse was pts eventually)

Plus heartbars and wedges :p
 

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Mine had these fitted , initially when he had suspected soft tissue damage and continuing when mri confirmed this.

Maybe they helped a little but his feet were in too much of a downward spiral plus it was fine when the farrier at the RVC was applying them but I found the other farriers were a bit hostile and not so expert in applying them.

http://www.vetcell.com/media-coverage/category/HSP+-+Hoof+Support+Patch

First article talks about how wedges are counter productive,
 

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I know a horse that was barefoot his whole lifeand has developed navicular. Now in heart bars and wedges in front and sound
 

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1. Natural Balance shoes

Couldn't figure out what was happening but after lameness work-up - we found that my lad was lame on both front feet with very slight changes on x-ray to coffin joint. Diagnosis was post caudal heel pain and he had injection into one coffin joint and natural balance shoes and now nearly four years down the line, things been great.

2. Lateral extension to shoe

Following an injury, my ID's lateral cartilage started to ossify (side bone) and in the end had to get hoof wall thinned to ease the pressure but needed support so he had this side extension to his normal shoe fitted to help.
 

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My farrier, who is well recommended by my vets and other people, claims there is no such thing as 'remedial shoeing' - it's just about a farrier doing the right job for the horse in question. I'm not criticising your request, just it always makes me smile when he says it. :)

Anyway, my old mare had natural balance shoes for around the last 12 years of her life (23-35). She was trippy in front. A lot of it was probably due to her thinking about everything other than where she put her feet, but the shoes really helped and she was never lame or anything and the tripping then became minimal.

Good luck with your research. :)
 

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My mare had laminitis 3 years ago and had Imprint Shoes fitted every 3 weeks after an x-ray. I'm sure she was shod on four occasions with Imprints then she was shod with Heart Bars twice. After all that we were back to normal shoes.
 

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Not my horse, but I found the shoeing very interesting, so I'll share...

Reverse pedal bone rotation in both fronts caused by chronically contracted and run forward heels. I'm not sure of the name of the shoe that was used, but it was half a normal metal shoe nailed on in front, joined to a pad covering the caudal hoof. The back half of the foot was not nailed to the shoe/pad, which was intended to allow the caudal hoof to expand/contract as it should do.

The aim was obviously to allow the heels to move back and decontract. The horse is now sound and in work, and the feet have improved a great deal. Though obviously not as much as it might have if there had been no shoe at all.
 

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I know a horse that was barefoot his whole lifeand has developed navicular. Now in heart bars and wedges in front and sound

I know of two others. Both were not sufficiently trimmed/worked and grew a rim of hoof wall that took the frog out of contact with the floor - just like a shoe.

Both returned to full work after a rehab which included sufficient hoof wear to bring their frog back in contact with the floor. No shoes.
 

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my rehab was shod in egg bars which failed to resolve his issues. Had been diagnosed navicular following xrays. Resolved by removing shoes, which will not help your assignment I guess!
 

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My horse has been diagnosed with having damaged (thought to have sprained as lameness quite mild) his medial collateral ligament in left front.

He has been shod with 'leverage reduction' shoes which help the break over on the front of the shoe, like natural balance, and the sides.

http://www.tfp-shop.co.uk/acatalog/Leverage_Reduction_Shoes.html

He has also has plastic pads filled with equi pack for support under them.
 

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Knew a horse with what the farrier called saucer shoes and heart bars added in them. Didnt get a picture sadly but the farrier took lots as he was very proud of them. Was for a horse with ring bone and he was noticably better as soon as they were fitted and was loads better the next day. Oops forgot to say that was for ring bone.
 

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One of ours had sheared heels on the near fore, both fronts shod in heart bars for about 3 or 4 shoeing cycles (every 5-6 weeks). Sheared heels did improve though I suspect more likely because the hoof was trimmed level as farrier was taking more care lol!

Then came out of heart bars with intermittent lameness, giving back pain (vet suspected kissing spines), turned out to be collateral ligament strain, with this causing the back pain.

Few more shoeing cycles with different farrier and standard shoes, gave an improvement but still back issues and intermittent lameness so shoes off.

In fairness to the farrier she is obv a mare who is very sensitive to any human feck ups as she only stays sound when untrimmed and left to sort herself out. Obv not possible when shoes are used so she is now barefoot (and sound, thank goodness!).
 

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Know 3 who have heart bars for sunken pedal bones through laminitis. One was an old cushings mare who wore them for years up to pts. Other had 6 or so lots till current farrier (the one I use too) took over & removed them. Other has a sunken pedal bone (laminitis) & has had them on for 2yrs or so, with a prediction of them coming off in 6months or so. Sound except for first few days after being shod when very footsore.
And current farrier, who is usually one to remove shoes, especially for problems put one lot of egg bars on a friends horse a few years ago, but can't remember for the life of me why, it was deemed successful, will update as to reason when I remember or speak to her.
 

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Big horse has high and low articular ringbone, and coffin joint arthritis. I switched to a remedial farrier who initially shod him with Natural Balance shoes - the difference was AMAZING. Totally different horse. He also stopped trying to make his two front feet identical. Horse's left fore is naturally smaller than the right, previous farrier had been chopping up the right to make it match and making horse lame. My remedial (current) farrier leaves them to be different and horse is far more comfortable than he's been in years. Now shod is just wide web rolled toes, no clips (because farrier says the NB shoes themselves are rubbish, they were just a short term solution for him). He did put him back in standard shoes with toe clips the time before last but he was short in front straight after so is back in the wide web shoes with a heavily rolled toe, slightly set back like the NBs. Horse is comfortable again.

About 3 years ago he was diagnosed with hock spavins and vet told my farrier at the time to put him in lateral extensions. He's now back in standard shoes behind and more comfortable. Yes the LEs straighten the movement but I also found they made him short because they force the horse to use the part of his hock which is sore. Without them he walks slightly on the outside of his foot so isn't technically straight, but his movement is much freer and he takes a bigger stride.

So in the case of my horse, remedial shoeing behind was unhelpful at best but in front it has been fantastic.
 
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