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Hi everyone

I wonder if you guys with experience of hind gut issues could help me. My 7 year old eventer has been diagnosed with hind gut inflammation. She is having succeed and we have cut out all cereal feeds.

Essentially we looked for problems once she started stopping and knocking poles. Does anyone have experience of their horses coming back to full fitness and performance once the problem was being managed?

She is not ever going to be able to be a dressage queen (as she hates it). It would be such a shame if she just became a hack or broodmare at her young age. She loves her jumping and we would love to get back to what we were doing.

She only had the diagnosis a month ago so it's early days, I'm just concerned about her.

Also on the topic of breeding, it is a good idea to breed from a horse with hind gut issues?

Many thanks. I hope you can give me some words of encouragement
 
Hi,

I'm sorry I know no answers to your questions. I just wanted to ask you more about the condition.

What were your mare's symptoms?
How was it diagnosed?
What is the treatment/prognosis?

Thanks and sorry!
 
Hi

Symptoms for maddie are;
Being girthy and not liking having her saddle put on
Started stopping when she has never stopped in her life
Started knocking poles too - she had never had a competitive show jumping or xc fault
Not going forward on the flat
Struggling with lateral work
Fussy eating with feed

The vet diagnosed it with poo sample, she had blood and albumin (a blood protein) present in her poo. They can blood test for it too I believe. She had a scope for gastric ulcers but this was clear.

Maddies treatment is succeed which is a supplement the vet prescribed, but it's jolly expensive, more than £400 for 6 month supply and can take 90 days to see a difference. Maddie has only been on it for a month so I can't tell you if it's any good yet. There is another treatment called gastropro which has good affect apparently.

She has also come off all grains and cereal feed and gone onto dengie healthy tummy, ad lib hay and she is staying out 24/7. She normally does in the summer but I'm trying to keep her out for as long as possible whilst the weather is ok.

They need lots of alfalfa in their diet, low starch and low sugar so avoid molasses in chaff. I have taken her off Alfa a

Hope that helps. Not sure on prognosis at the moment as early days
 
I have the vet coming in November

Symptoms are-

- Refusing to jump when she has been consistently jumping clears for a long time.
- Not wanting to go forward schooling, in walk, trot canter. She WILL when forced but used to put her all in to it.
- General ridden lackluster (although fine with high speed hacking)
- keeps acting like she wants to poo but doesn't, carries on the charade for a very long time whilst ridden.

Currently out 24/7 and fed speedi beet and alfa oil as and when (when she lets me catch her).


I'll let you know what happens!!
 
Research feeding Turmeric, powerful anti inflammatory and cheap. Also, Forever Living Products -Aloe Vera Gel will massively help this condition but not as cheap.
 
maddie7 said:
Hi everyone

I wonder if you guys with experience of hind gut issues could help me. My 7 year old eventer has been diagnosed with hind gut inflammation. She is having succeed and we have cut out all cereal feeds.

Essentially we looked for problems once she started stopping and knocking poles. Does anyone have experience of their horses coming back to full fitness and performance once the problem was being managed?

She is not ever going to be able to be a dressage queen (as she hates it). It would be such a shame if she just became a hack or broodmare at her young age. She loves her jumping and we would love to get back to what we were doing.

She only had the diagnosis a month ago so it's early days, I'm just concerned about her.

Also on the topic of breeding, it is a good idea to breed from a horse with hind gut issues?

Many thanks. I hope you can give me some words of encouragement
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My mare had similar symptoms but also bunny hopping in canter and going disunited on right rein when jumping. She had sacroiliac medicated and I also suggested ulcers. She tested positive on both parts of succeed test and had succeed for 90 days which helped. In May, my farrier commented that she was stiff in back end to shoe so back down to vets for work up as she had got sticky with jumping again. Succeed test was negative but she had some fluid on stifles so those were medicated. Back jumping again and better but still not quite right and still a little girth. I then tried chios mastica gum from Intelligent horsecare which has had good results in people with ulcers. It has made a huge difference and she is much less tense and jumping beautifully! For £25, I would definitely recommend it!
 
Thank you for that advice. She has had a full orthopaedic work up so we are happy she has none of those issues. Hopefully once her gut is under control she will be ok
 
Maddie7 you could be describing my boy! He has had ulcers but still wont go forward under saddle, although fine on the lunge. He doesnt like me approaching him with the saddle and can be really grumpy. He has had every investigation going, full work ups, back xrays, thermal imaging, bute trial, full body bone scan and nothing has been found so it has to be an internal problem.
The vets have given up on him so im now giving him Equishure to see if that helps the hind gut. The scoping specialist told my vet to do the Succeed test but they wouldnt and sent his poo to Liphook for testing but it wouldnt have been fresh poo then!
I will follow this post with interest as its now down to me to try and fix him and as hes only 6yrs i refuse to give up on him at the moment.
 
Sounds very like my girl. She hates the saddle going near her too. It's so difficult. I'm really hoping we get to the bottom of it. For you and me!!

She is only 7 so is very frustrating. How long has your boy been like this?
 
My chap was first scoped in March and then again in April. The ulcers were nearly better but his behaviour has been the same since march. No one will listen to me about hind gut problems so ive taken control of the situation and im trying things one at a time. I may try succeed but various people have said try just equishure first before adding succeed. If you are on facebook there is a page 'horses with ulcers' which is well worth joining. It has been a godsend to me in helping me work out what could be wrong and the best way to deal with it.
 
Good idea to work through and see what helps. Got to give each one a good length of time to make sure they can have full affect. I spoke to the guys that make gastropro too, they were really helpful and sounds like good stuff. That may be worth a try if this one doesn't help. Have you felt any difference? How long has he been on it for?
 
Only been on it 2 days. Hes happy in himself which is an improvement and his muscles are more relaxed around his girth area and lumbar region
 
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