Reverse pedal bone rotation ???

There's a horse on my yard that has this. In her case it was caused by extremely contracted and underrun heels. The horse has now been shod with half shoes which are nailed on only in front, with gel pads over the back of the hoof to allow for natural function of the caudal hoof. It seems to have been effective - the heels are decontracting and coming back. I can't help but think, though, that the same effect could have been achieved a lot quicker and at less expense by removing the shoes.

You mentioned on the other post that your horse was barefoot, but began struggling with stones - it may be an idea to try and establish why that might be. If you don't want to try removing shoes again, then the shoes I've described above seem to be doing a similar job.

The problem with bar shoes is that they are a patch up job, and rarely solve the underlying issue ime. Good luck with your horse :)
 
Thanks nocturnal - her heels are not underrun or contracted the long period of being barefoot sorted that, she just has typical TB flat feet.

The vet said she felt the stones because of this condition ?
 
I have read the other post and my first thought is not to wait until your farrier gets back from holiday, but ask your vet for a recommendation for a farrier who can shoe/trim to the x-rays to get your girl comfortable again.
I had this situation with my boy when he was 12 - he got more and more pottery until it was worth getting the vet and then x-rays. I was told that when the pedal bone is too flat, all the soft tissue at the back of the foot is squashed and bruised, so the foot needs to be balanced up and then the bruising can heal. As soon as mine was shod to the x-rays in Natural Balance shoes, he came sound quite quickly - he is now 26 and still hacking around gently. Over the years he has had graduated pads for a short period when his heels became a bit underrun, but these came off as soon as the foot balance was restored.
Good luck.
 
Ladylina83 said:
Thanks nocturnal - her heels are not underrun or contracted the long period of being barefoot sorted that, she just has typical TB flat feet.

The vet said she felt the stones because of this condition ?
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Interesting. I'm not second guessing your vet at all, by the way, I'm just very interested in feet! Would you mind elaborating on the diet (including forage and grazing)? Thinking logically, the laminae in the hoof capsule cannot be 100% healthy if they're allowing the pedal bone to rotate, so perhaps changes in diet may help your horse (whether shod or not)?

I think TBs also get a bad rap where feet are concerned. Mine also has 'typical flat TB feet', but they're trying their darndest to grow in at a better angle - I've just got to find the right diet and work programme to allow this. It's easier said than done, I've come to the conclusion that TBs are very sensitive creatures in all respects!
 
No problems

She was out on a 40 by 40 24/7 patch of bare ground in the day with a small amount of hay that she went mental for to the point I felt like I was starving her - I had just weaned my youngster off her and didn't have the option for a track but will be doing this year, she refuses to eat hay soaked though and she was really skinny ! no hard feed at all. She wasn't just tentative she would wince in pain.

Our whole yard is covered in recycled tarmac bits to give you an idea she was fine on the road surface, I hacked her out in front hoof boots some of the time - but was even footy in the school ( our surface is gubbins ) My trimmer even said I don't think we will ever get her right over stones, it was as if the yard was bruising the sole and it was never getting chance to recover.

Vets said it was her natural hoof/ bone conformation, banana shaped so pedal bone down at the back worse on the left.
 
Obviously your vet's seen the x-rays etc, so if they think it's due to natural conformation of the pedal bone there must be something to it. Does the vet think that it was caused by removing shoes?

The restricted forage etc was due to suspected laminitis, right? What was her feed like before she was put on this diet? With just a small amount of hay she must have been missing some vital minerals to maintain a healthy hoof - not criticising btw ;) - but obviously the problems must have started before this, when she started feeling the stones.
 
The restriction started because I know she can't have a lot of grass as she goes footy but it had never been that bad before, I've had her a long time, the yards we had previously been on had smooth yard surface rather than stony and when she was nursing little one she was fine not a single problem - she also had a mineral block in her field.

The vet did not suggest barefoot was to blame at all but was very firm that she now needs shoes.

She is now fed HiFi Molfree tiny amount very watered down fist size of speedibeet Maxa flex (joints) and Maxavita (mineral supplement)
 
My horse had this. Only it was in his hind feet. I too had never heard of it.

His was diagnosed through severe, worsening back pain, despite being out of work. He had flexion tests, came up severly lame beind. Nerve blocks showed it was below the pastern and the X-rays showed it was de-rotation of the pedal bone. It was caused by bad shoeing. Having by now educated myself on hoof balance and the like I decided my farrier wasn't doing a good enough job.

I changed farrier, to a remedial farrier, reccomended by my vet. He had corrective shoeing, intensive physiotherapy for about 6 months and was turned away. Bought him back into work very gradually, and havn't had an issue since! Although, I can tell if he's due to be shod, his back gets a touch sore again, but as soon as his toes are trimmed right back again he's fine :)

He's been out doing full day's hunting this winter and is absoloubtly fine and non the worse for it the day after :)
 
Well good luck with her, I hope she recovers quickly! You may find mineral balancing helps your horse, shod or otherwise :).
 
Hi Lady Lina,

A very long time ago I know! But I was wondering what the outcome was of your horse that had reverse pedal bone rotation? Did it correct and how long did this take?
 
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