Ribbleton training - what is it?

[soloequestrian]

Anyone know what this is? It seems to be free but I'm wary of signing up. The thing that interested me in the ad was this 'Why we disagree with both positive & negative reinforcement, and Paulette’s unique alternative approach'. Positive and negative reinforcement are the basis of learning, whether environmentally reinforced or by another animal. How can they disagree with them? Should I just sign up to find out??

 

[Bangagin]

I registered my email address and watched the webinar (which was free) and was then offered a follow up call, but haven't taken up that offer. I imagine you are then given all the information about what they can offer and the cost of mentoring during that phone call.

 

[soloequestrian]

So it would be reasonably safe to sign up for the webinar then....?

 

[Bangagin]

I would say so - although I'm not sure how useful it was.

 

[Highflinger]

I took up their offer for a follow up phone call. They asked basically the same few questions about my relationship with my horse in various different ways for about an hour. To be honest felt quite bored after a hour of being asked the same question over & over again. Then came the cost............it was Australian dollars & they could not tell me the sterling equivalent - can't quite remember the exact cost but it worked out to be a LOT more than I paid for my horse. He was £3k . I honestly cannot believe anyone would sign up but I suppose some must do!!
Although I think on line courses have their place for the cost of Ribbleton you could have many many hours with a real instructor.

 

[Bonnie Allie]

My husband who is a professional horse trainer in Sydney had a client who went to them for training. The client is intelligent, well educated lady with a deep scientific background as a career. She didn’t feel she got a lot out of it and was frustrated by the lack of transparency In the method.

As with all trainers, you need to be able to check on formal qualifications, credentials and understand their proposed frameworks/methodologies.

im all for innovation, but it must have some solid reasoning behind it before I’m convinced.

Maybe searc for some reviews on their services?

 

[soloequestrian]

I'm not fussed about doing the training, I'm just interested to know what they think is not either positive or negative reinforcement - in my view everything is, just the reinforcer varies!

 

[bluedanube]

I'm not fussed about doing the training, I'm just interested to know what they think is not either positive or negative reinforcement - in my view everything is, just the reinforcer varies!

don’t forget negative and positive punishments though. a lot of training use these.

 

[soloequestrian]

don’t forget negative and positive punishments though. a lot of training use these.

I suppose that's the focus of my question - is this Ribbleton thing just using terms incorrectly? You can have positive and negative appetitive and aversive reinforcers. As far as I can see you can't have anything else other than I suppose neutral which would inherently have no effect so couldn't be classed as part of training....

 

[Highflinger]

Exactly my experience Toodledo. Who on earth would pay than for an online training programme? Although I think some on line courses are very good TRT for example for £4K you could have many hours with a Real instructor

 

[Toodledo]

Exactly my experience Toodledo. Who on earth would pay than for an online training programme? Although I think some on line courses are very good TRT for example for £4K you could have many hours with a Real instructor

Exactly! I could have hours and hours of instruction, go to couple of clinics, buy a new horse... and still have enough for a holiday!

It was all sales speech, sounded great but nothing actually that meant anything. Definitely one to avoid!

 

[DottyHorse]

It's interesting to read your thoughts and I too watched the webinar, had the call and took the plunge mid last year. And I can 100% say is it's worth every penny and more - in fact to me and the each week what I'd hear the other students sharing about the profound changes in their lives was priceless. On the call I remember the lady talking about it being a transformation. I don't think you can even comprehend what that means unless you do it. The call was challenging for me because I had to take a deep look at myself. But it felt right so I decided to follow my heart and I'm so glad I did. It's real, don't doubt that for a minute but it's more than you could ever imagine. They have a face book group where you can hear Paulett (who owns it) on videos and many students sharing their stories.

 

[Gingerwitch]

It's interesting to read your thoughts and I too watched the webinar, had the call and took the plunge mid last year. And I can 100% say is it's worth every penny and more - in fact to me and the each week what I'd hear the other students sharing about the profound changes in their lives was priceless. On the call I remember the lady talking about it being a transformation. I don't think you can even comprehend what that means unless you do it. The call was challenging for me because I had to take a deep look at myself. But it felt right so I decided to follow my heart and I'm so glad I did. It's real, don't doubt that for a minute but it's more than you could ever imagine. They have a face book group where you can hear Paulett (who owns it) on videos and many students sharing their stories.

Wow a new users first post recommending this system are you by any chance on their sales team ?

 

[DottyHorse]

Wow a new users first post recommending this system are you by any chance on their sales team ?

Actually I jumped on here to try to get some help for my mare's thrush and then found this thread. I wish I worked for them, but alas I'm 71 years of age and retired now. If I was younger I'd jump at the chance. As I said, what they do is truly wonderful.

 

[Talla Tee]

I'm a newbie to this forum & I was amazed at the negativity surrounding this post from those not prepared to try first before knocking it

I spent 6yrs trying to "fix" my horse's aggressive behaviour
Last yearR Ribbleton presented in my life at a time when euthanasia was looking like my only option
I took the discovery call because there's nothing to lose in just taking a call... right?
There were tears because being vulnerable with your personal story to a stranger over the phone is daunting
Its a 10wk course & I nearly backed out because of the cost but when I thought about what my horse means to me I bit the bullet & signed up!!
Ribbleton is a lifestyle NOT a step-by-step method In 10wks you can transform ALL the negativity from your life not just around your horse
There are no repeat customers because you DON'T go back to old habits (if you're totally committed to living in the moment)
I am a graduate I DO NOT work for them or their sales team
I just wanted this thread to hear from someone who took the plunge & enriched their life with Ribbleton & my horse has never been so understood ?

 

[Frankiw]

Wow a new users first post recommending this system are you by any chance on their sales team ?

I’m not on anyones sales team but as a graduate of the initial course and a student of a follow up course, I can honestly say this system works...and I have tried a lot of different methods.

 

[Frankiw]

I suppose that's the focus of my question - is this Ribbleton thing just using terms incorrectly? You can have positive and negative appetitive and aversive reinforcers. As far as I can see you can't have anything else other than I suppose neutral which would inherently have no effect so couldn't be classed as part of training....

Have you ever seen that episode of The Big Bang Theory where Sheldon tries to condition Penny with chocolate treats? (Work with me here, I have a valid point). When she finds out she is devastated, diminished and really mad. He says that it was nicer than the alternative (electric shock treatment) to which Leonard and Penny are horrified and even more mad. The outcome was that Penny and Sheldon had to communicate better and reach agreements to improve their relationship. Do you see how this works? Neither positive, nor negative reinforcement to improve the cohesive bond between two parties who work together.

 

[Coryn]

Rippleton is where you learn to TRULY Conect with your horses .! ! Not show and shine with ribbons . It teaches you how to be truly grounded and how to communicate with your animals ! Most people can connect with their dog and no what they are saying . Imagine doing that with your horse ! That’s what Rippleton training is about , it’s the conversation. If you are all about getting your horse to a show, no matter what ,and winning that ribbon it’s probably not for you . And no I don’t work for them . I enjoy the conversation with my animals and the positive changes I have made in my life because of RIPPLETON TRAINING . Xx

 

[Goldenstar]

Many of us can connect with horses with out paying £££ ‘s to people we don’t know on the internet .

 

[TPO]

In the space of four hours there are four brand new posters who's only posts are to say how life transforming paying 4k for an online training course is ? <slow hand clap>

 

[Goldenstar]

Let’s do our top tips for connecting with your horses .
I will start .

Dont ever expect emotional support from a horse that special bond with a horse develops ,if it develops, over time .
its disrespectful to horses to expect this from them .

 

[Gingerwitch]

Top Tip 2

If you have a shod horse they may struggle to swipe the I-Phone without damaging the glass, so you are better off with the old style Nokia, but it does need really big buttons for them to press

 

[Tarragon]

I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with people joining the forum to add their comments about something that they have experience of, if they feel it is being misrepresented. Whatever it is or how much it costs.

 

[TPO]

I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with people joining the forum to add their comments about something that they have experience of, if they feel it is being misrepresented. Whatever it is or how much it costs.

I agree but it does raise suspicion when 4 new people appear praising a questionable product on a 3mth old thread.

Attempts at stealth marketing happen fairly often on this forum

 

[Cortez]

I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with people joining the forum to add their comments about something that they have experience of, if they feel it is being misrepresented. Whatever it is or how much it costs.

This is completely true. But there is a lot wrong with a sales team for an extremely expensive and frankly spurious load of old waffle doing so. Go away strange marketing woo woo bots.

 

[DabDab]

One of them doesn't even seem clear on the name...

 

[Daisy H]

Wow! New users enter the saloon. The music stops. Well-known members turn from the bar and eye them suspiciously. ‘You’re not welcome here.’ ‘We don’t like you.’ ‘Coming here with your fancy foreign ideas.’ ‘We’re gonna shoot you down.’ Maybe I’ve seen too many westerns. I thought H&H forums was a friendly place, not a troll-fest.

The truth is, the lady who runs Ribbleton heard about this thread and asked people to post some positive (truthful) reviews. Forgive her, she’s an Australian living in Australia, she doesn’t understand the Great British psyche.

But who am I? My profile says ‘new user’ too. I’ve been studying with Ribbleton for 2 years and I love it. I know the other posters from our forum and they are genuine users, not sales people. But I would say that, wouldn’t I? I’d post a positive review but sadly it seems H&H Forums is not the place. If the OP or anyone else would like to message me for my thoughts and feedback, feel free. For the rest, I’m wearing my riding hat and body protector (the closest thing I have to a stab vest) ready for the backlash. I doubt I’ll look back for replies though. Life under lockdown while also working in a supermarket is sh*t enough without this kind of meanness.

In the words of the wonderful Caroline Flack, my second favourite ever Strictly competitor after Mark Benton (who could forget his cha cha cha to ‘U can’t touch this’, available on YouTube), ‘In a world where you can be anything, be kind’.

 

[DabDab]

I think one person posting their personal view on a thread about a product is one thing, but when a bunch load of others then join the forum specifically to promote a very expensive product then it becomes a bit different. If you all personally chose to come on here purely to post your positive views on a product then that's fine, nobody is stopping you, but you can't expect regular users to think that it is a particularly great asset to the forum.

This forum is best when you get an organic range of opinions on a subject.

 

[ester]

we're using BBT to demonstrate points now?!

 

[Gingerwitch]

we're using BBT to demonstrate points now?!

Whats BBT ?