rider weight limit for 16.2 tb?

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As title - Am having to be realistic and help the owner find a really good home for the mare I was helping with.

What is the max weight of rider we should allow to try her. She is a late teens, pure Tb fine girl. She has been a hunt masters horse and hunter hirling in her previous homes so she has always maintained a certain level of fitness.

I am just hoping a fab home comes along to stop me worrying about where the dear girl will end up. After all my hard work getting her back up to weight and in good condition I would hate for someone to neglect her and see her all waife like and skinny again.
 

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This thread will probably go mad be warned!

I would say no more than 12 stone on her, some will gib at 10 stone, and some will say bahhhh she was in hunt service probably had at least 13-14 stone on her........

How much bone does she have?X
 

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My TB gelding is 17hh & has a decent amount of bone, but I don't let anyone over 10.5 stone on his back. Maybe I'm a bit over protective of him, but he has quite a long back & is prone to issues with his pelvis.
 

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She may have been able to carry the hunt master who could weigh around 13 or 14 stone ish but she's older now and is unlikely to be kept at hunting fitness unless someone who wants to hunt her buys her so I'd say around 11 stone at a guess? An experienced rider will ride lighter than an inexperienced rider, even if they weigh more as the weight is more evenly balanced.

If she's up for sale I'd use your eye to assess whether a potential buyer is suitable. Watch them ride her in a good arena and see if they look balanced and if she is comfortable with the weight she's carrying.
 

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I haven't put the tape around her legs but she is tall and gangly. I'd say she has legs more like my 13.2 Chunky New Forest rather than my 15hh Arab x Cob.

Her current owner is a young lad about 12.5 stone and he was hunting her full days up until this Jan - before I got involved and now see's thats not appropriate at the moment and is back to hacking now.

I will try and get down to her yard to take some pics if I can this weekend and measure the bone.
 

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If she's late teens I'd be looking for someone ideally under whatever she can carry now. That way she can still be ridden when she's older & can only enjoy a short hack with a lw rider, more chance of her staying healthy & in the same home if she's rideable. Maybe about 10 stone ideally, no reason it can't be 13 at the moment tho at a guess.
 

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My TB gelding is 17hh & has a decent amount of bone, but I don't let anyone over 10.5 stone on his back. Maybe I'm a bit over protective of him, but he has quite a long back & is prone to issues with his pelvis.

Goodness, my poor 17hh ISH has to carry my 14 stone!! I am slim and super fit but just tall and big-boned. I thought I would be fine on a 16.2/3 but maybe not!
 

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Goodness, my poor 17hh ISH has to carry my 14 stone!! I am slim and super fit but just tall and big-boned. I thought I would be fine on a 16.2/3 but maybe not!

I know! I am not sure people know how big 14 stone actually is, I am nearly 6 ft, about 14st and I wouldn't say I am especially hench (I'm a size 14, can go up to a 16, never less than a 12) I have been riding TBs, ISH, even anglo arabs and a camargue. Thankfully no one has weighed me prior to letting me ride their horse or the game would be up and my secret out.

Looks like we'll have to get 19hh draft horses to cope with our enormous weight!!
 

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I know! I am not sure people know how big 14 stone actually is, I am nearly 6 ft, about 14st and I wouldn't say I am especially hench (I'm a size 14, can go up to a 16, never less than a 12) I have been riding TBs, ISH, even anglo arabs and a camargue. Thankfully no one has weighed me prior to letting me ride their horse or the game would be up and my secret out.

Looks like we'll have to get 19hh draft horses to cope with our enormous weight!!

I agree with this - I'm just under 11 stone but I'm reasonably tall and a size 10 or rarely a 12 so no one will ever believe me when I say that's what I weigh, they seem to think if you're a size 10 you should be 9 stone. My 16.2 tb carries me with no problems at all so I think he'd happily carry more, but then again I am experiencedish so won't ride particularly heavily.
 

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I worked with pointers and TB hunters for 7 years at 12 stone and never had any problems, even galloping. But the older teenage horses i only ever exercised or took/brought back second horse for the boss. (Who was a diddyman)

But a lot depends on conformation, not just bone. A long back will get weaker with age for example.
 

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I've just started loaning a TB, hes 16.2 and I'm 5ft 11 and weigh 11 stone, again as some other people have said I look a lot lighter and Im in a size 12. He has no problems carrying my weight but then he might not be quite as light build and hes 9 years old.
 

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Not sure if this info will help but she's in a 6ft 3 rug and weigh tapes about 450 kg ATM but she is gaining well and filling out nicely and Dr Green is doing his best :D

I know it's a tricky one which is why I have asked the question. I am getting the feeling 12 stone is a max for her and preferably a lot lighter due to her age. But it also depends on the terrain as around here we are MEGA hilly and it's a real workout just doing an hours hack where as if someone is on flat terrain it would be much easier for her to carry them.

I absolutely hate loaning out horses as have had so many bad experiences with ours being neglected despite the people sounding great and being recommended the whole idea gives me nightmares.

I will do my level best to make sure I ask a million questions and keep a close eye on her. Still working on OH to let me run her with my lot but he isn't keen especially as she is a fine TB who needs feeding and not a fat native who needs limiting and she wears shoes.... :(
 

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Goodness, my poor 17hh ISH has to carry my 14 stone!! I am slim and super fit but just tall and big-boned. I thought I would be fine on a 16.2/3 but maybe not!

Lol I'm not saying that no 17hh TB should carry more than 10.5 stone, I'm just not happy to put more than that on mine due to his conformation & pelvis probs. I think with rider weight you have to take more into account than the horse's breed & height, they are all different & have different strengths & weaknesses :)
 

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It depends on the horse's fitness level, conformation and what sort of rider will be riding the horse.

My TB is 15.3 of medium build, doesn't have a very long or short back (just normal) and is 16 years old. I'm *shock horror*, 5'9" and vary between 13st and 13 1/2 depending on that time of month and my TB has no problem, carrying me during our Medium trots and our jumps. We do ride nearly every day so she is VERY fit but I stopped my 7 stone novice friend from riding her as she was too heavy handed and thumping on her back too much which was annoying my horse. Ironically, my novice OH who weighs a little more than me, rides my horse and Hattie goes in a lovely outline!!

Here's us to show that 13stone on a TB doesn't necessarily mean pony squashing :p and to give you an idea of my TB's build so you can compare. LOl, ignore my ugly shirt as it's abaggy XL and is massive on me so makes me look fatter. I'd burn it but it's so comfy to ride in, lol!
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Only you can determine what the horse's fitness, attitude and conformation is like but don't rule out a taller "heavier" if experienced if all the boxes tick. :)
 

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Oh dear... I was going to look at a 15.3hh ID x TB tomorrow... I better not cause I'm 14 stone.... :p

Haha I rode my shared 15.2 ISH after reading this thread yesterday and I was wondering if the owner will one day say 'sorry, it's not working out, you're going to have to lose 4 stone or leave' silly brain!! She's clearly not struggling and loves to gallop off even when I tell her not to.

In all seriousness I completely understand that if a horse has arthritis or something you might want a lighter rider, also I guess if it's doing a lot of jumping. I think 12 stone is reasonable as I personally wouldn't get any lighter than that even if I was really slim but it's up to you, any less than that you would just have to rule out taller folks as well I guess.

They are quite strong our four-legged friends :)
 
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