Riding with a hollow back?

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I also wonder if with bigger moving horses, it has changed the seat that people ride with to make it easier to sit to?
Not saying it is correct seat but when you see the huge bounce and swing, with some horses back's going up and down a foot each trot stride, I wonder if sitting slightly behind makes it easier to absorb which would also tilt your pelvis like this.

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I also wonder if with bigger moving horses, it has changed the seat that people ride with to make it easier to sit to?
Not saying it is correct seat but when you see the huge bounce and swing, with some horses back's going up and down a foot each trot stride, I wonder if sitting slightly behind makes it easier to absorb which would also tilt your pelvis like this.

Just a musing!
If you look at the pictures I posted from the Spanish Riding School you will see that this is the classical seat, developed waaay before the modern, big bouncy horses, and so it's not "changing" the seat at all, rather preserving the way it should be done. I AM saying it's the correct seat, but that would not entail "sitting slightly behind" - what do you think you're seeing when you look at the pic of Carl Hester????? Have you read this thread at all?
 

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I also wonder if with bigger moving horses, it has changed the seat that people ride with to make it easier to sit to?
Not saying it is correct seat but when you see the huge bounce and swing, with some horses back's going up and down a foot each trot stride, I wonder if sitting slightly behind makes it easier to absorb which would also tilt your pelvis like this.

Just a musing!
If it makes it easier to sit to, then surely that reduces the amount of tension in the rider/against the horse, and therefore makes it a correct seat? Not correct as in classically correct, but correct as in best for the horse’s comfort.
 

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It can also depend on what a particular horse needs. Some need a lighter seat than others and this can change as they become stronger. You do what works with the horse you are riding.


Which would perhaps explain why it was quite apparent when Charlotte was competing Imhotep recently. I don't know how she sits the horse but her back is more hollow on him than on others, I think.
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Which would perhaps explain why it was quite apparent when Charlotte was competing Imhotep recently. I don't know how she sits the horse but her back is more hollow on him than on others, I think.
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I'm not all that au fait with the current crop of competing GP horses, but is Imhotep a very sensitive horse?
 

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If you look at the pictures I posted from the Spanish Riding School you will see that this is the classical seat, developed waaay before the modern, big bouncy horses, and so it's not "changing" the seat at all, rather preserving the way it should be done. I AM saying it's the correct seat, but that would not entail "sitting slightly behind" - what do you think you're seeing when you look at the pic of Carl Hester????? Have you read this thread at all?

Yes read it all, thank you, being rude doesn't help get your point across at all.
Also I was referring to the 'other' riders OP mentioned and talking generally, not just about Carl Hester- we'd all love to ride like him and I actually don't think his back is as pronounced as some you do see (who do sit behind slightly into).
 

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I'm not all that au fait with the current crop of competing GP horses, but is Imhotep a very sensitive horse?


I haven't got a clue Cortez but he is absolutely huge moving in the back by the look of him.
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If it makes it easier to sit to, then surely that reduces the amount of tension in the rider/against the horse, and therefore makes it a correct seat? Not correct as in classically correct, but correct as in best for the horse’s comfort.

Yes exactly.
 

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This is really interesting. Can a rider be using their core effectively with a hollow back?
I struggle with that, day to day more than riding and am using Pilates to try and build core strength to relieve the strain on my back, surely a hollow back position is putting more strain on it.
 

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Well this is my best attempt. Horrid saddle aside the straighter back helped me no end!
 

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