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i’m a bit confused on what colour my mare is, she looks grey and especially when she’s clipped, but in summer goes lighter and more brown! she has grey, black and brown hairs in her coats it seems and she has a blackey browney coloured mane, and her tail is silver, black and brown! her passport says she’s roan but is there any way to tell whether she is grey or a roan with more grey hairs than brown? sort of hoping she’s roan but i’m rather baffled now!
 
Luckily mine was correctly identified as grey and is down as chestnut/grey in her passport so I never had to update the passport, but even so people would insist that she was roan.

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Note that her head is also 'greying out', a chestnut roan would keep a chestnut head.

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They were a bit surprised when she moulted out to this as a two year old!

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Now she's covered in these.

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Granny is passported as Roan. Not much point changing it now. She's almost entirely white now, few darker hairs still in mane and tail.

OP your horse is grey and will get gradually whiter with each coat change.
 
Cortez said:
Pippity, yours "is" roan.
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Roan would be evenly distributed. With the ticking radiating out from the flank, and especially with the white top to her tail, it's rabicano. But it's interesting that even somebody as knowledgable as you would class her as roan. Perhaps I'll stop giving her colour with a disclaimer!

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Rabicano is a variation ('tis true, she is...), but for the ease of passporting I'd say just let her be roan.....

For instance, my mule has a whatsit (galustra?) plume tail, but for the real world he's just....brown.
 
gulastra pretty close ;)

genetically we like to keep 'roan' for Rn, and use roaning for the effect of other genes.

Definitely grey OP but I wouldn't worry about changing the passport :), even plenty of 'grey roans' out there. Of course it is possible to have both but usually they've just started the greying process when they were passported.
 
Wait till you have one as speckled as mine is! It doesnt show up very well in photos, but shes more roan looking than most roans. Shes not roan though. I get fed up of telling people shes genetically black with a variation of sabino and probably a w20 esque gene causing the white. I get a lot of blank looks!

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Pippity said:
Mine isn't even grey and she's passported as blue roan. Just straightforward black with a smidge of rabicano ticking.
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lol, by the time one of my stallions was 5, I thought he was the dark brown/black on his foal id with some rabicano. Once he was 6 - he still LOOKED that way, but one of his foals out of a chestnut mare was definitely grey! This was him at 5 - the only bit of flecking was in his tail.

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xlxzxzx said:
i’m a bit confused on what colour my mare is, she looks grey and especially when she’s clipped, but in summer goes lighter and more brown! she has grey, black and brown hairs in her coats it seems and she has a blackey browney coloured mane, and her tail is silver, black and brown! her passport says she’s roan but is there any way to tell whether she is grey or a roan with more grey hairs than brown? sort of hoping she’s roan but i’m rather baffled now!
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My mare was a dun and went like this till full grey but brown hairs remained along with flea bitten, she looks like a rose grey or nutmeg grey. If she was chesnut or bay originally you prob find flea bitten patches like Fara's horse keeping the same brown/red hairs. Even when my mare was white she still had dun hairs in the shape of flea bites and brown legs
 
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JanetGeorge said:
lol, by the time one of my stallions was 5, I thought he was the dark brown/black on his foal id with some rabicano. Once he was 6 - he still LOOKED that way, but one of his foals out of a chestnut mare was definitely grey! This was him at 5 - the only bit of flecking was in his tail.

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Does her have a grey end to his tail? It looks like he does in the photo and thats a dead give away.
 
Wow! That's a super slow 'greyer' JG!

Has anyone worked out why the rate of 'greying out' is so variable? I have wondered if the presence of sooty slows down greying times. My girl doesn't have sooty and as shown above, she greyed out super fast (but of course it meant no pretty dapple grey stage).
 
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