RSPCA are totally inept, rude, etc I could go on

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Is there a journalist amongst us that would like a go at the RSPCA? Without going into too much detail here they cautioned a couple in March this year for cruelty to horses and one of the horses that I was informed was OK and acceptable has since STARVED to death.
Im so angry that I did not do more and that perhaps I could have saved this gelding from his fate......BUT I was assured that the situation was being monitored.
Any advice? I really want to expose this organisation.
 
try admin on here or letters to the editor ?

what about the Daily Express or the Sun as well.....they are always into heartbreaking stories and if you have any photos you may stand a chance of getting published.
 
I'm afraid the RSPCA don't tend to know too much about horses...
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I could go into more detail but briefly - I reported my next door neighbour for cruelty the pony had such severe laminitus the poor thing la down with its legs streched out whatever the weather. I took video to show this. Unfortunatly there was a huge cover up as my next door neighbour is an RSPCA inspector!
 
I totally agree! I reported some people to them and they got totally fobbed off by them! And rang me back to say all the horses were bright and alert and therefore fine (some of them were so skinny you could see their vertebrae over their rumps!) Useless idiots!
 
with all due respect and i feel so so sorry for these animals that have suffered - i know an Inspector and they are absolutely stretched to the limit. Perhaps the general public (or animal lovers as we are known as) should poss do a little more! People should not be afraid to say something when an animal is obviosuly suffering. There are many many other rescue/advice centres out there, not just the RSPCA that can be called for advice etc.

I am not an Inspector - but really, they do have their work cut out. As for 'exposing' them - did u not actually see wot was going on. I know this sounds a little harsh, but another Rescue place could have been called.

Sorry!
 
I think it depends on the level of experience particular inspectors have, our local one is brilliant, takes on welfare cases and wins, and I have done some cases with her.
They do have issues as an organisation, they rely on vets providing evidence for them in welfare cases, and you would be surprised to hear how many vets will just refuse to work with them. I understand why there might be a reluctance on several levels (political/ hunt supporting vets, sometimes the suspects are their customers, threats to the vets and their premises from suspects) but that does mean prosecution is difficult and they consequently appear to be ineffective.
 
I would agree - as the ILPH are equine orientated and would poss know a lot more 'equine' contacts/rehab centres - RSPCA cover all sorts. My daughter also done a lot of voluntary work for the RSPCA, and believe you me, the staff at the kennels/rehoming loved and really cared for no matter what animal come through them doors. They are taught to become a little detached otherwise i would have ended up with a house full of animals and a broken hearted daughter (who is one of the kindest and gentlest young girls I know).

I think they should be cut a bit of slack here - look at the thousands of good things they do. But my heart really does go out to the poor animals that cannot be reached in time.
 
I disagree.
I think the RSPCA used to be a well run and helpful organisation. but have changed for the worst since the hunting issue.
Now they are obsessive 'animal rights' martyrs - you only have to watch Animal 24/7 to see how they exceed their powers to trespass, issue people 'Improvement notices' and take animals from people because as one Inspector on TV said 'I can tell you've been mistreating him' - that's not exactly evidence is it?
They were even reminded, by the Charity Commission, that they were set up for pubic benefit, not to further a political view regarding vegetarianism etc.
There, rant over!
I'm just disappointed in them as they used to be so good...
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well concidering i called the rspca about 2 ponies that were found wandering on the road and had come to say hello to my horses. I find them absolutely useless.
Even my vet was happy to say that these horses had been starved. one horse had died of starvation on the owners drive and the owners were well known to police and Rspca after many many calls about these poor ponies. The RSPCA inspector said there was no clear signs of abuse or neglect!
you tell me that this pony hadnt been starved
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the bay is a 2 yearold colt. The grey a 2 yearold filly that was in foal!
My vet was quite happy to work with the rspca to ensure a prosicution. poor little colt even had a heart murmur. In the end the only way to get those horses out of that situation was for a friend of mine to buy them from the owners, however you cant keep doing that!

They then had the cheek to take my ponies boett off after a call from a member of the public and leave a note about how i was being cruel to my pony by rugging him in the heat of summer! by the time i had finnished work and gotten up to see my pony he was raw and bleeding all down his withers from scratching!
 
I think the hunting issue has being used a little bit of a beating stick.

So - if they dont exceed their powers their wrong!

If they do exceed their powers - they wrong!!!
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What are they meant to do - get these animal abusers in a head lock and march them to.....where? They are Inspectors - not Police Officers. They only have the powers to issue these Notices - not arrest everyone. Perhaps 24/7 try to show them having a little more weight behind them - surely this is a good thing to deter animal abuse? And yes, if an animal is clearly being abused - why not take it away from its abuser - that's their job.

As yes, Charity Commission 'reminded' them - again, cant do wrong for right. They are only trying to help the animals we as the public have called about but have their limits. These people are animal lovers - just like you and me.

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Not so disappointed......
 
So why was another welfare/rescue centre not called in the absence of RSPCA doing anything about it and the ponies being watched left get to this state?
 
Lilbon, the problem is they seem to not care when the cameras are not pointed at them.
In the case above they had everything they needed for a prosecution and to take those horses away. They had the vet agreeing, all the police records they needed, several visits and notices to the owners, but they wouldnt.

In the end my friend had to PAY to save those horses and you know what, the owners moved house and now have anouther set of horses they are starving.
 
honeypots it was a while ago, the problem with those ponies was solved by my friend buying them, ive washed my hands of the whole business. I got threatened and my horses threatened several times. My friend (the one who bought the ponies) has had carriages and saddlery nicked, fencing cut and gates opened with horses let onto the road. Im not putting myself or my ponies in that situation anylonger.
 
oh yes and we found a dong wandering up here, took it to the local rspca shelter (2 miles down the road) and they refused to have anything to do with it. We couldnt keep it as we have our own dogs, when we asked what we were supposed to do with the dog we were told turn it loose again. Even if the couldnt or wouldnt take the dog, you would think that they would at least know of where we could take it!
 
I agree they are a waste of time!I phoned about a stray cat once,they asked if we were feeding it,we said yes,they said your problem then!!Great attitude,we were only feeding it as it was sooo skinny nd we didnt want it on our conscience if it died at the yard!!I have tried contacting them here in north lincs on a couple of occasions nd they dont even answer the damn phone!!I know their job is made difficult due to all the red tape,which is why i think they should be given the same powers as the officers have in the states!!
 
Do you know for a fact and actually heard it from vets, police etc they had this case wrapped up for a prosecution - or was it hearsay? Also, wouldn't or couldn't? Very different things.

I am not having a go, what your friend done is absolutely fabulous and I really take my hat off to her. Yes, fact, there are going to always be people out there like these horrible people, and what i am saying is people, like the RSPCA, only have a certain amount of weight/authority.

If this was the case and you know all of the above as fact, why not then blame the Police, the vets for their downfall in not taking matters further?

Again, not havin a go, but you cannot beat just one organisation for not being their 24/7 - someone, sooner should have reported them to another organisation and not left it to that degree - perhaps? But i am very glad they are now in a safe happy home.
 
well the ponies came down to my yard and i popped them in my lorry parking area to keep them off the road (thats where your seeing them in the pics). I also called my vet. He said infront of me and the RSPCA inspector that they had been starved and it was clear neglect.

We had trouble with the owners for several years and they were well known to the police (we had called the police at least 4 times outself, and the farmer whos land backed onto thier house is our hay supplier and has had no end of trouble from them). There was also a drugs raid up at the house. And armed police officers were called to them on a few occasions, i know this becasue we a police man came and told us to stay in the house (it was at night) and shots were heard. Several friends had already complained several times about the ponies and been assured by the RSPCA they were dealing with it and notices had been issued.

other organisations cannot seize animals only the RSPCA can and when we went to other organisations they kept saying we cant do anything without the RSPCA's help.

They were finaly evicted from the house they were squatting in a few months ago they took the new ones with them and ive no idea where they are now, nor do i care provided they stay away from me and mine.
 
I have always had a low opinion of the RSPCA. Some 30 years ago we reported some people who had a 2 year old pony. They were riding it and kept it in their back garden, at night it was shut in a garden shed 6' x 4'. The RSPCAs response was that as it was fed and housed they couldn't do anything! Luckily the children soon lost interest and the pony was sold, but I have never forgotten the RSPCA attitude.
 
Remember the people who work for the RSPCA are people - just that - doing their job - like us. They are not superhumans whizzin around saving the animal world.

If these people were as awful as you say they were (drugs, firearms etc) then i am afraid neglecting ponies is a drop in their ocean. Hard but true.

Other organisations have the power to call for Police back up in severe cruelty cases - not just the RSPCA. I dont no, but i would think if the RSPCA had been working on this family alongside the Police, they would have been told by the Police to keep their distance. The Inspectors cannot put their lives on the line in cases like this for animals.

I think what needs to be kept in mind - yes, cases, because there are so many of them, slip through the net, for want of better words. It does make them wrong wrong wrong - again, look at what they have do right.

i can understand what you are saying, I just dont think the stick should be weilded at one set of people who arte just trying to do their job - like us.
 
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So why was another welfare/rescue centre not called in the absence of RSPCA doing anything about it and the ponies being watched left get to this state?

[/ QUOTE ] I amazed to see this used (by another poster to) to make the ongoing abuse the fault of the OP for not calling another organisation
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She called the RPSCA. They shouldn't fail to take the needed action. If they are so stretched that they can't do the job, then they should call another organisation. Or perhaps their directors should downsize from their luxory cars and first class flights and let more of the 'charity' money be spent on investigators! Sometimes they do a fine job. Sadly, too often they are useless
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I called them several years ago to a Rottweiler who was chained to a metel drum in a scap yard. By day when the yard was open, a lid was put on the drum so that it couldn't try to attack people (it was an unhappy, frustrated creature). It was a hot summers day when I saw that. The temperature in the drum must have been unbearable
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I called the RSPCA and a pleasent woman took the call and said someone would contact me when it was investigated. A week later the dog was in the same situation and I'd heard nothing. I phoned them again. In the end I phoned 4 times. Everytime I got the same response, I started taking a different route home because I felt helpless, I couldn't help the animal and the RSPCA were doing nothing. Does the ongoing suffereng become my fault then because I didn't ring another organisation? Are we saying that because the RSPCA are busy they are not responsible if they ignore a report?
 
No - not saying that - just they cannot be everywhere all of the time.

I have my daughter sitting next to me - the one who worked there - first hand. She and others, again, worked very hard and rehomes hundreds of dogs cats mice birds etc etc successfully.

They do not just rescue and animal end of. Wot about follow up home checks, emergency calls, etc. There may be times 2 Inspectors have to go to a call i.e. catching a dog - takes time.

All I am saying again, is that they are not all bad - there are lots and lots of happy endings.
 
any yet when my mum takes a dog TO the RSPCA shelter, they say they wont take it and say just let it loose again (to potentialy get shot by a farmer or hit by a car). no advice as to where else we could take it, no oh we will keep it here till we can arrange for someone else. nothing. we couldnt keep it as our dogs were very unhappy about it.
I dont have the time or the patience to be chasing round after a charity that is getting millions in donations but wont do its job.
 
It is not the role or the brief of the RSPCA to take in stray animals, as far as I am aware, that is the role of the local authority, so whilst they were right to refuse to take the dog, they were very wrong if they didn't explain that a call to the District Council or even taking it to a police station for collection, was an option
 
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