Pidge
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no just on the flat, no jumping
Oh god I hate problems like this feeling sick now
If say a second saddler came out and said it didn't fit where would I go from there?
saddle help please?
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spaniel
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Looking at your vid and comparing with the stills it looks like this flying is just after your moment of take off so you cant really see it in the still pics.
Im not sure if the saddle is bridging or if the fit at the wither isnt right but theres certainly something 'up'!
Im not sure if the saddle is bridging or if the fit at the wither isnt right but theres certainly something 'up'!
Pidge
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Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Pidge
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sorry to be blonde again but what's bridging? would it be helpful to lunge him over fences with his saddle on and then that would eliminate whether I had any influence on this?
SpottedCat
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Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I'm sorry but that is complete b******t. Go into photogallery and look at my post Charlton Park Pro Pics - you will see my horse making a nice shape over a fence and no lift in the saddle like you have, regardless of where the hell I am on it!
Gte an appointment with another saddler and get a second opinion - I would not have yours within 10 foot of my horse if that is what he is telling you!
Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I'm sorry but that is complete b******t. Go into photogallery and look at my post Charlton Park Pro Pics - you will see my horse making a nice shape over a fence and no lift in the saddle like you have, regardless of where the hell I am on it!
Gte an appointment with another saddler and get a second opinion - I would not have yours within 10 foot of my horse if that is what he is telling you!
Pidge
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here's one just after take off
Pidge
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just had a look - lovely pictures by the way
I see what you mean, have you any when just taken off as this seems to be when the saddle is lifting?
am going to find out some details of other saddlers in our area ready for next week.
am going to find out some details of other saddlers in our area ready for next week.
spaniel
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Sorry....bridging is where the horses back has more of a curve in it than the saddle does. When you first look at the saddle it seems fine because it sits on the back at the pommel and the cantle but in reality there is no contact with the back in between those areas. Like putting a ruler along a banana.
JM07
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Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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typicall answer from someone who now has to work out what the problem is...
tell him to forget it..you'll get someone who knows what they are doing....
total BULL...............
Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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typicall answer from someone who now has to work out what the problem is...
tell him to forget it..you'll get someone who knows what they are doing....
total BULL...............
Pidge
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so basically the bits of the saddle either side of the gap over his spine aren't touching Pidge's back then? sorry having a mental block on proper names
so if so its the wrong tree then?
Pidge
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so even if he comes out he'll say everythings fine and nothing to worry about then
god I'm in a no win situation then!
JM07
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so even if he comes out he'll say everythings fine and nothing to worry about then
god I'm in a no win situation then!
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thats why i'd be interested in a second opinion....
so even if he comes out he'll say everythings fine and nothing to worry about then
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thats why i'd be interested in a second opinion....
Pidge
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right plan of action - sound ok?
take some pictures with saddle on and without
find another saddler for 2nd opinion
lunge Pidge over a fence and video it, with and without numnah and breastplate to see if any difference at all.
thank you so much everyone what would we do without all the help and advice so readily available on here - I for one really appreciate it
going to go and grovel to Pidge now back later
take some pictures with saddle on and without
find another saddler for 2nd opinion
lunge Pidge over a fence and video it, with and without numnah and breastplate to see if any difference at all.
thank you so much everyone what would we do without all the help and advice so readily available on here - I for one really appreciate it
spaniel
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so basically the bits of the saddle either side of the gap over his spine aren't touching Pidge's back then? sorry having a mental block on proper names
so if so its the wrong tree then?
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Yep, although it may not be the problem in your case, sometimes there can be almost no contact at all along the length of the tree. You can get probelms with banana shaped trees on flat backed horses too.
Dont start reading too much into speculation just yet. get on the phone to a second saddler and get them to come out and actually look at you in the saddle over a jump. It may be something really easily fixed.
so basically the bits of the saddle either side of the gap over his spine aren't touching Pidge's back then? sorry having a mental block on proper names
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Yep, although it may not be the problem in your case, sometimes there can be almost no contact at all along the length of the tree. You can get probelms with banana shaped trees on flat backed horses too.
Dont start reading too much into speculation just yet. get on the phone to a second saddler and get them to come out and actually look at you in the saddle over a jump. It may be something really easily fixed.
kerilli
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what make of saddle is it? oh, and i agree, your saddler is talking bull****, i've never, ever seen a saddle do that before. and don't let him blame it on you/your position... he knew it was for you, it was his job to make it fit the horse for YOU to ride in it.
i think you're going to have to lose it with him eventually, tbh.
i think you're going to have to lose it with him eventually, tbh.
Blizzard
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girth has elastic either end, but is only a year old! Saddler only came out 3 weeks ago and adjusted saddle, but have looked at older photos and it does the same then
sorry to be totally dense but why would the elastic stretching cause the back of the saddle to lift?
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I HATE HATE HATE elastic girths.
I would get a nice leather one
Pidge is such a good boy to carry on regardless.
girth has elastic either end, but is only a year old! Saddler only came out 3 weeks ago and adjusted saddle, but have looked at older photos and it does the same then
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I HATE HATE HATE elastic girths.
I would get a nice leather one
Pidge is such a good boy to carry on regardless.
Blizzard
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so basically the bits of the saddle either side of the gap over his spine aren't touching Pidge's back then? sorry having a mental block on proper names
so if so its the wrong tree then?
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The panels should be in contact with his back all the way along, if you lift your saddle flaps and look at the panels, from the front,back and shoulder, you shouldnt be able to see daylight.
If your saddle is bridging, where it isnt against Pidge's back, it will create pressure points and a sore back.
so basically the bits of the saddle either side of the gap over his spine aren't touching Pidge's back then? sorry having a mental block on proper names
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The panels should be in contact with his back all the way along, if you lift your saddle flaps and look at the panels, from the front,back and shoulder, you shouldnt be able to see daylight.
If your saddle is bridging, where it isnt against Pidge's back, it will create pressure points and a sore back.
Blizzard
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Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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WTF!!
Sue my YO is a saddle fitter and if I said that to her she would probably slap me!
Absolutely bollocks! Def get another saddle fitter.
Ok will see if I can get some tonight if poss.
Just got off phone to saddler, who doesn't seem concerned about it but will come out and check on Tuesday for me. He says its normal as the saddle is flat and the horses back bends when he jumps therefore the saddle can't stay moulded to the back of the horse. Or it could be that I am leaning forward too much and therefore putting too much weight on the front of the saddle - oh god I do do this so it could all be my crap jumping position
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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WTF!!
Sue my YO is a saddle fitter and if I said that to her she would probably slap me!
Absolutely bollocks! Def get another saddle fitter.
Pidge
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the saddle fits snug along Pidge's back as have double checked it tonight, just in the process of uploading some photos.
Pidge
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thanks, was having a think about what he said and if it was me leaning forward too much then it wouldn't go back down until I stopped leaning forward would it! grrrrrrrrrrrr
Pidge
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thanks Gina, just feel guilty at putting Pidge in pain