Saluki pup update . . . update/dilemma

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PolarSkye

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So . . . not only has YO, her OH, her daughter and her aunt all told the young lad who owns this pup that he should give her to me because she would have a much nicer life (!!!!!!), but this morning YO and her OH told me point blank to just take her - that if I didn't she'd likely end up being kicked by one of the horses or get out onto the road. When I said (shocked) "I can't, that's stealing" they responded that no'one need ever know!

I honestly don't know what to do now :(.

On the one hand, I feel like I've been given permission . . . on the other, the pup really is someone else's property and it does amount to stealing.

This morning she followed me all over the yard from the time I arrived (about 8.30) until about fifteen minutes before I left (11.30) when she just disappeared. I am now terribly worried about her . . . and have asked anyone who finds her to pop her back into her pen if they see her.

Sigh.

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I would offer him whatever you feel is a fair price - cash in hand - and then either take her home if he agrees or else draw a line under it and leave him to it. I think just taking her will probably end badly, regardless of what the others at the yard are saying, sorry.
 
I agree with the above, you have shown a lot of interest in this pup so if she suddenly "goes missing" he is going to have a pretty good idea who took her! It would also mean living in constant fear of someone saying something they shouldn't, never being able to take her to the yard and looking over your shoulder every time you walk her - you never know who might see her with you.
 
Arizahn said:
I would offer him whatever you feel is a fair price - cash in hand - and then either take her home if he agrees or else draw a line under it and leave him to it. I think just taking her will probably end badly, regardless of what the others at the yard are saying, sorry.
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Oh don't be sorry - I'm afraid this is the way I'm leaning . . . if I take her, I am stealing . . . and then I'd have to live a lie. On the plus side, it may help my case when I approach the lad with the lolly that all these members of his family (he is YO's nephew) have been encouraging him to let me have her.

Right now, though, I'm just worried about her - I hope she is back in her pen when I go back up to put my horse to bed later . . .

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Pendlehog said:
I agree with the above, you have shown a lot of interest in this pup so if she suddenly "goes missing" he is going to have a pretty good idea who took her! It would also mean living in constant fear of someone saying something they shouldn't, never being able to take her to the yard and looking over your shoulder every time you walk her - you never know who might see her with you.
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Yes, I know. Couldn't take her to the yard, or talk about her, or put updates/pictures of her on FB (which I do with my other two).

Plus . . . it's stealing.

YO's view is that to him, she is a commodity and that he wouldn't "miss" her. I get that - and FWIW, I agree to an extent. But she is still his property - presumably he paid for her (he didn't breed her) and he bought her as an investment. He might only be young, but he still deserves to be treated with respect.

How much do you think I should offer?

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I agree you cannot just take her.

how old is the owner?

saluki lurchers currently go for £100-150 unless they are of particular breeding then it can be an awful lot more than that, but the question really is how much are you happy to pay for her-I would be cautious with all of this because if he makes a profit on her than he will just get another one to do the same with and maybe this is the starting point of a not very nice income? It is risky but if you wait and he losses money on her he wont do it again.
 
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I personally don't think she is worth very much at all, but what she is worth to YOU is another matter, and I would be inclined to present him with a decent wad and walk away with her. I think you mentioned £200 previously? This is a decent sum for a young lad - I think he would be very tempted.

Hopefully if his family are putting a lot of pressure on him he will decide it isn't worth the hassle of getting another.

I totally understand what the YO is saying about her being a commodity to him - I don't think he would chase you out of concern for the pup, but he would probably try to come after you over the money if you took her.
 
How about looking online at lurcher rescues and printing off pics. of some similar to his, pointing out that you could get one much cheaper than he is asking! I love lurchers and do hope that you can get this one he/she looks so cute. I would absolutely feel the same as you, it's very upsetting to see a animal not treated properly. I'm with the other posters in that I think just to take it would be asking for trouble though and Ican see that you would be very uncomfortable t do this. Good luck I'm sure you will wear him down soon :-)
 
Right . . . so £100 is what I will offer . . . if he balks at that, then I'll barter up to £150, but no more. I just hope she's there when I go back up this afternoon . . . like I said, seriously worried about her . . . she's so teeny that she could easily have run into the road and been hit :(.

This little girl has really got under my skin and I would love to give her a home, but I'm not prepared to steal. Let's hope the lad (he's 15) will accept my offer.

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This is so exciting - do keep us updated what happens :) I think you are offering a fair price, people always want absolutely stupid money for lurchers nowadays although smaller ones like this seem to be slightly less saleable than greyhound-sized ones around here (Gloucestershire) - I will keep my fingers tightly crossed for you :) :) )
 
I've read all your threads regarding this pup :) Please let us know how it goes with the lad :D From my experience, and knowing 15 year olds ( i was one 3 years ago!) I know that a 15 year old lad is unlikely to say no to a wad of cash placed in front of him, especially if he doesn't care about the dog, just wants the money.
Good luck and please update us! :)
 
PolarSkye said:
Right . . . so £100 is what I will offer . . . if he balks at that, then I'll barter up to £150, but no more. I just hope she's there when I go back up this afternoon . . . like I said, seriously worried about her . . . she's so teeny that she could easily have run into the road and been hit :(.

This little girl has really got under my skin and I would love to give her a home, but I'm not prepared to steal. Let's hope the lad (he's 15) will accept my offer.

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Will his parents agree to the sale??
 
LJR said:
Am hoping that no news is good news.
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No news is no news at the moment I'm afraid.

The good news is that she was back when I went up this afternoon - I had taken my Daisy with me and the two of them played in the school.

This is a long game . . . I will be talking to the young lad some time this week to see if he will part with her.

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PingPongPony said:
I've read all your threads regarding this pup :) Please let us know how it goes with the lad :D From my experience, and knowing 15 year olds ( i was one 3 years ago!) I know that a 15 year old lad is unlikely to say no to a wad of cash placed in front of him, especially if he doesn't care about the dog, just wants the money.
Good luck and please update us! :)
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Thank you - and I will.

I am aware that by taking the pup on I could be creating a void that he may feel the need to fill . . . but I just can't leave her there . . . and if I can re-home her, I will.

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Lévrier;12323432 said:
This is so exciting - do keep us updated what happens :) I think you are offering a fair price, people always want absolutely stupid money for lurchers nowadays although smaller ones like this seem to be slightly less saleable than greyhound-sized ones around here (Gloucestershire) - I will keep my fingers tightly crossed for you :) :) )
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Thank you . . . she is very dinky . . . but she is also very, very fast.

Like a turbo-charged ballerina ;).

I will absolutely let you know.

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Why not ask your your YO how much he paid for her before you put any offers in? And also confirm with YO that they will not allow him to take on another dog? That way you can ensure the boy neither makes a profit nor creates another problem with another dog. Finally, I really do think it would be a good idea for you to print out some of the lists and details of lurchers stuck in rescue to be able to show how many dogs like this there are out there needing homes. He needs to understand this is a big problem which he has been lucky enough to escape and not think this is an easy way to make money!
 
Luci07 said:
Why not ask your your YO how much he paid for her before you put any offers in? And also confirm with YO that they will not allow him to take on another dog? That way you can ensure the boy neither makes a profit nor creates another problem with another dog. Finally, I really do think it would be a good idea for you to print out some of the lists and details of lurchers stuck in rescue to be able to show how many dogs like this there are out there needing homes. He needs to understand this is a big problem which he has been lucky enough to escape and not think this is an easy way to make money!
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Young lad is YO's nephew . . . not up to her to control what he does. As to the rest, I have PM'd you.

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Quick update . . . pup wasn't around for a few days - they moved her to another part of the compound - but she was by the gate when I went up today so spent the morning in my stable (I was sooooo pleased to see her - I had really missed her - that little girl has gotten completely under my skin). Then lo and behold, young lad who owns her happened to be about - so I told him straight that I really want her and will pay him cash, but that he needs to come up with a reasonable amount. He said that he co-owns her with his cousin and would have a word with him and get back to me.

YO happened to be there and rang him and reiterated that we are all worried that pup will end up being kicked or trodden on by a horse (she has NO horse sense), and then he'd have nothing but a vet's bill . . . he said (again) that he would talk to his cousin.

About two hours later, the cousin showed up to fetch the dogs (the two jacks and the pup) and I asked him outright (nicely) if they had talked . . . much umming and aaahing . . . said they'd have to think about an amount. I reminded him that I'd be paying cash. Smiles.

So tomorrow, I'm taking up an amount . . . when I see either of them, I will hand them the cash and ask them outright. I have done my research - I know how much dogs like this go for on Preloved and Gumtree (shudder) . . . I know what the market rate is.

I have no intention of short-changing either of these lads . . . I'm willing to pay what's fair . . . but not seeing her for a good four days and then having her around for two hours today pretty much confirmed that I want to bring her home (although I knew that already).

I'll let you know.

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Have followed this thread from the start but not commented before. I think I am as nervous as you waiting for the outcome and will be just as gutted if it doesn't turn out right! Fingers crossed.
 
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