Sarc-ex users a bit of help please

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Samba has now gone through two tubs of sarcex she has two scoops once daily.
Her sarcoid has cracked, oozed a bit and got a tad smaller but only a little bit. Its been like this for three weeks now and no futher change, infact I think its drying up. Her smaller sarcoid has gone.

How much longer have we got to go or shall I abort and get the vet out or just leave it. I cant really see us doing any showing other than maybe a local show at the most.

I have used sarc ex before on another horse with great success within one tub so im feeling all a bit disheartened.
 
I would keep going with another tub, it might be drying up from the inside out ( if that makes sense?). Definitely keep on with the Sarc -ex, and please please don't let the vet use Liverpool cream on it, I have seen so many 'nearly there cases' go absolutely into overdrive once treated.
 
Baggybreeches said:
I would keep going with another tub, it might be drying up from the inside out ( if that makes sense?). Definitely keep on with the Sarc -ex, and please please don't let the vet use Liverpool cream on it, I have seen so many 'nearly there cases' go absolutely into overdrive once treated.
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Wow I've seen so many do exactly the opposite. I have great success with the AW4-LUDES cream and laser surgery seems to be increasingly successful.

I think honestly though we still have a lot to learn about sarcoid treatments and they seem to go into "overdrive" as you put it at their own will.:confused: This can be very frustrating.

getting your vet involved doesn't mean they leap for the cream - and they will only do this treatment following consultation and agreement from you! They may have some useful further advice. See what it's like after the weekend and ring next week if you are still not happy.

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Imogen
 
Hi Imogen, that is just my experience with the Liverpool cream, I agree that there is so much to learn, there are so many treatments and so many 'old wives' tales about cures and remedies.
I have used Sarc -ex twice with good results, but also had improvements with Thuja (make of that what you will!).
 
Funnily enought when I went up tonight it was oozing congealed blood and some of it was hanging off, I cleaned it up but it made it bleed again. Slightly paniced. Rang Global herbs and asked what they thought, they said that it can happen but shouldnt be like it for more than a couple of weeks!!!! \It did stop.

But I should expect this as it gets worse before better.

I rang vet and he said that see how it goes over the weekend and if I was still unhappy about it to ring him on monday. Just uneasy about the whole thing, my others mares ones just dissapeared.
 
Baggybreeches said:
Hi Imogen, that is just my experience with the Liverpool cream, I agree that there is so much to learn, there are so many treatments and so many 'old wives' tales about cures and remedies.
I have used Sarc -ex twice with good results, but also had improvements with Thuja (make of that what you will!).
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It's always good to learn of others experiences with all treatments. I know nothing to speak of about sarc-ex and thuja. But rightly or wrongly I am very wary of other topical treatments that have not been trialled officially....I know this doesn't apply to sarc-ex - what about thuja?
 
Please everyone take great care when dealing with odd lumps and bumps and lesions. It's so easy to think something IS a sarcoid when it's actually something else. So the owner self-treats, the odd whatever-it-is disappears and bingo, the owner thinks s/he has found a brilliant sarcoid cure. The reality is often that the odd whatever-it-is WASN'T a sarcoid in the first place, just something warty or whatever that would have cleared up on its own. The danger comes when the odd whatever-it-is actually IS a sarcoid and an owner starts self-treating with products that say things like "promotes skin growth" or the like. Any product with attributes like that don't want to be applied to a skin cancer as they could make it worse. Tea tree and aloe vera products are two frequent culprits. If an owner wants to understand about sarcoids, read Prof Knottenbelt's definitive guide. The Prof is a world expert on sarcoids and his guide is clear and easy for a lay owner to understand. It is Prof K who developed Liverpool Cream (Liverpool Uni) as a sort of chemotherapy attack on sarcoids. Liverpool Cream is scientifically tested and approved although, as the Prof advises, the only predictable thing about a true sarcoid is its UNpredictability.

I would urge owners to ask themselves this: if you thought you might have a skin cancer, would you go to a herbal shop and buy something to sprinkle on your cornflakes or would you hotfoot it down to your GP and demand to be seen immediately?
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
Please everyone take great care when dealing with odd lumps and bumps and lesions. It's so easy to think something IS a sarcoid when it's actually something else. So the owner self-treats, the odd whatever-it-is disappears and bingo, the owner thinks s/he has found a brilliant sarcoid cure. The reality is often that the odd whatever-it-is WASN'T a sarcoid in the first place, just something warty or whatever that would have cleared up on its own. The danger comes when the odd whatever-it-is actually IS a sarcoid and an owner starts self-treating with products that say things like "promotes skin growth" or the like. Any product with attributes like that don't want to be applied to a skin cancer as they could make it worse. Tea tree and aloe vera products are two frequent culprits. If an owner wants to understand about sarcoids, read Prof Knottenbelt's definitive guide. The Prof is a world expert on sarcoids and his guide is clear and easy for a lay owner to understand. It is Prof K who developed Liverpool Cream (Liverpool Uni) as a sort of chemotherapy attack on sarcoids. Liverpool Cream is scientifically tested and approved although, as the Prof advises, the only predictable thing about a true sarcoid is its UNpredictability.

I would urge owners to ask themselves this: if you thought you might have a skin cancer, would you go to a herbal shop and buy something to sprinkle on your cornflakes or would you hotfoot it down to your GP and demand to be seen immediately?
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+1 - well said!!
 
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