Sarcoid advise - with pics

Cullohill

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Just like peoples opinions and advise on Sarcoids, recently looking at my 3 year old whose wintered out i have notice what look like Sarcoids
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Photos......

on chest
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armpit
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sheath
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under belly
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So do they look like Sarcoids to you??

And what treatment would people advise, i am thinking of trying Thuja tablets and cream firstly and if he they show no change maybe go down the more expensive Liverpool cream route........

He is only 3 this time but i am hopefully going to start backing him soon and woud like to get them sorted while he's young.

Any advice muchly appreciated.
 
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Yes, unfortunately would say they are sarcoids. Def worth trying the Thuja cream, the other thing my vet recommends highly and worked well on one that G had was Newmarket Bloodroot cream. Is ALOT cheaper than Liverpool cream, and can be administered by you. Wasnt expensive either. Got rid of Goddy's and there is a horse on the yard that suffers badly and this has helped.
 
Before you go down the expensive route, you could try Warticon (available from chemists). I've known people have success with this on smaller sarcoids.
 
They look like sarcoids to me
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Personally, unless they are bleeding, attacked by flies, grow a lot, or are causing him discomfort etc then I'd leave them alone for now.

With young horses sarcoids sometimes disappear as quickly as they appear. My loan horse had a couple and they'd disappeared on their own by the time he was six.

Otherwise if you're worried about them, then I'd get your vet up to look at them and go down the Liverpool cream path
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bloodroot ointment, definitely. my homebred mare had the same at about 4, i treated them all with bloodroot and they haven't come back (3 yrs later)... this mare's dam had terrible sarcoids so i've always worried that she might have caught them... esp as the dam had loads around her udder and the foal spent the first 6 months of its life covering its face in blood every time it suckled.
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the bloodroot stuff really really does work.
 
pants isn't it poor Fin doesn't deserve them

i've read into bloodroot aswell as thuja and some information on bloodroot was bit scary sounded more aggressive than Thuja, think i'll do thuja first then bloodroot if it doesn't work, both worth a try before expensive liverpool
 
i've read some scary stuff on it and sounds more aggressive than thuja?? could it cause more damage than good? i know each horse different but just worries me thought thuja be first option as seemed less aggressive, the might go down bloodroot if it doesn't work.
Tina had one tiny one on her hind leg below stifle we just left it alone and it never changed.
Bud had one and vet at the time left us some liverpool cream to use - not sure he was meant to leave it with us! it died and hasn't reappeared but it very expensive so thought of using other routes first.
 
Hi
My 4 year old started the Liverpool cream route on Wed. He's had the second application today - so far no soreness and no bute required. My vet looked at his and recommended the cream straight away. She said there is a very good success rate, although pricey - the cream has cost me £120 plus 4 call outs bute and possible sedation if he gets really sore. They give you loads of cream so if any more appear there will be cream left. To be honest, i'd bite the bullet and get the vet in. Don't let them get big. My boy's first appeared about 6 weeks ago and is now the size of a rather large marble!

Good luck - they're such a pain!
 
Hi Cullohill. Long reply but bear with me. I'm no expert but have experienced sarcoid-type things on my ned. We all need to be aware that not everything that LOOKS like a sarcoid actually IS a sarcoid. Sarcoids, warts, angleberries and just odd "places" can all look very similar, certainly in the early stages. The big difference is how they respond to various stuff people apply to them. My boy had a very suspicious looking raised warty weeping lump on the side of his face right where part of his bridle goes. I read up about it on Prof Knottenbelt's site and was worried coz the face is a common site for sarcoids. Vets came out and applied Liverpool cream and the lump shrivelled up and eventually dropped clean off, text book style. At no time did Sunny exhibit any pain or fear about having it applied. Some months later, I spotted another couple of strange flat scurfy patches under his mane. Now they didn't look warty or weeping or raised. They looked different from the earlier one so I'd already researched the problem and thought I would try Thuja cream as it fits my need to "first, do no harm". I applied it as per instructions and it cleared both patches up a treat. HOWEVER!!!!! They may NOT have been sarcoids. You may have read my earlier posts re sarcoids. I'd strongly urge you to visit Prof Knottenbelt's site - it's got everything you ever wanted to know about sarcoids and more! The thing to be wary of is a true sarcoid is a cancer. Now, any over the counter product that claims to "cure" cancer would make it's inventor a trillion £s overnight. Many successful cures were certainly NOT true sarcoids in the first place. But hey! So what! As long as it cleared up whatever it was, does it matter? Liverpool cream DOES clear many sarcoids. But I think there are some it can't help simply because they are either too far advanced or they aren't responding or they are in a place where you can't apply a toxic cream eg the eye. There are other things the vet can do to tackle big or aggressive sarcoids or ones that are in a place that then makes riding impossible but - as I'm sure you know - surgery can make the problem worse and can encourage the sarcoid to grow. A final word of warning, be VERY, VERY cautious about putting anything at all on a SUSPECTED sarcoid that claims to promote cell growth. Crudely speaking, all cancers are uncontrolled cell growth. So some products could actually accelerate the growth of a nasty sarcoid. When in doubt, I'd get the vet out and go over the options and outcomes with them. Very best of luck xxx
 
i've just treated my horse with Liverpool cream. he had one small sarcoid on his inner thigh, but i was too scared to leave it in case it got worse or spread and too scared to use anything other than Liverpool cream. luckily, as a vet i can apply it myself and got a discount on the cream too. it's been a few weeks since his last application now and it's all scabbed and now i just have to wait for it to hopefully drop off - not allowed to pick the scabby bit which is most frustrating!
 
try crest toothpaste apply once a day for 1-2 weeks it works.My mare had one below her eye which vet did not want to treat due to its position Responded to CREST TOOTHPASTE
 
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