Sarcoid treatment not worked

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have just spent nearly £1000 on veterinary treatment for my horses sarcoid. its not worked. sarcoid still attached:mad:. last application was 6 weeks ago. anyone else had this problem and where do I go from here?
 
What a shame people are worrying about posting, especially in the vet area of the forum, where advice about welfare can be gleaned, though it is understandable.
I had a sheath sarcoma on my lad treated with Liverpool cream and that worked. It went crusty and four months later dropped off leaving smooth new skin. The treatment was cheap ..... It was only one lump. Is that what you used?
 
Sarcoids don't always disappear on first treatment this has happened with my horse .
Was the treatment with Liverpool cream? If it was the vet ought to have cream left over to treat again .
A horse who has a sarcoids will be at risk of getting more for the rest of its life as I was told when I took Fatty to vet uni for his lasering what's the difference between true love and sarcoids ? ..... sarcoids are for ever .
 
My horse got a sarcoid about 9 years ago. It was quiet for about 2 years in which time the vet said to leave it alone. Then it started growing and we used a chemotherapy cream according to the vet's protocol. It didn't work and eventually the vet cut the sarcoid out as it was growing. He took as big a margin as he could, but he did say it may come back down the track. Then about 1 year ago he got another sarcoid about 7 inches away from the original one (which has healed).

Anyway a staff member at the agistment centre suggested using Tumeric as she had seen this work on sarcoids in the UK a few times. The sarcoid is drying up very slowly, and at one end has lifted off the body so we are all crossing fingers it drops off eventually. Anyway if it doesn't I would consider another removal as he got several years peace from it last time. I am in Australia so treatments may differ from the UK etc. I am always interested to hear other people's experiences with various treatments. I actually had no hope with applying the turmeric, but thought it wont hurt so am giving it a go. I am pleasantly surprised to see it is slightly smaller an inactive looking.
 
I treated an aggressive fibroblastic sarcoid with toothpaste. Covering it liberally twice daily. It dropped off and has not reappeared in 3 years now. I don't care what others say about it because it worked for me and my horse was happy with the treatment. My vet was gobsmacked and very happy. You can't see a mark now where it was.

She is also on turmeric black pepper and micronised linseed daily and has been all that time and will continue too. My whole herd have this supplement for arthritis etc.
 
I think sarcoids can be so subjective. I've personally had positive results with homeopathy (take a sample, make a pill, feed it back to the horse) with our old mare, so this is what I would suggest. However, I know of people that have had results with toothpaste and Liverpool cream.

There is a horse on our yard that has had £10k worth of treatment for sarcoids, including several surgeries, and the owners said they went to a talk by a vet that has studied sarcoids extensively and his conclusion is that there really isn't any one method that works, and that if it's ready to come off, it will - regardless of the treatment. It's just a case of either finding the magic formula for your horse, or accepting and monitoring which I think these owners are now at. It means they enjoy the horse (he's only young) while they can as the lumps are not bothering him and will go from there.
 
HeresHoping said:
I will pm you because I don't want to be jumped on.
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I've never seen anyone jumped on for proposing alternative sarcoid treatments on this forum? I've posted several times about how I remove them with copper sulphate. It's probably technically illegal for me to do it without vet supervision, but my vets always remark that they can't get a better result themselves.
 
Mine had flat hairless sarcoids and nodular sarcoids. I used toothpaste and the hairless patches have all disappeared and the hair has regrown. One nodular sarcoid dropped out and initially healed but was quickly replaced with an ugly cauliflower like sarcoid. That responded brilliantly to the toothpaste also and dropped off never to return in three years and counting.
One large remaining nodular sarcoid didn't drop off but has gradually diminished in size from a large marble so now you can't see its there but if you feel there is a small pin head sized lump under the skin.
Toothpaste has kept them covered, dry and the flies at bay as well as curing them.
 
So what was it treated with, what sort of sarcoid and where, who came up with the treatment plan your vet or referral?
 
Achinghips said:
What a shame people are worrying about posting, especially in the vet area of the forum, where advice about welfare can be gleaned, though it is understandable.
I had a sheath sarcoma on my lad treated with Liverpool cream and that worked. It went crusty and four months later dropped off leaving smooth new skin. The treatment was cheap ..... It was only one lump. Is that what you used?
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this s very encouraging! I expected it to fall off within a couple of weeks of cessation of treatment. there is hope yet. :-)

ester, the vet sent photos to prof knottenbelt and he devised the protocol and number of times the cream was to be applied.

southern I'm going to try toothpaste, at least its cheap.

ycbm might try the CS it works brilliantly for thrush and seedy toe.

have already tried blood root which worked but it grew back and thuja crean and tabs which did nothing .
 
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Sometimes sarcoids are just more aggressive or tenacious.

We have one pony on the yard who had extensive laser surgery to remove 46 sarcoids. Unfortunately they are popping up again in all surgical sites only a year after treatment.
 
Downton Dame said:
this s very encouraging! I expected it to fall off within a couple of weeks of cessation of treatment. there is hope yet. :-)

ester, the vet sent photos to prof knottenbelt and he devised the protocol and number of times the cream was to be applied .
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Has it still got a crusty scab on it? If not ask for more cream. I wouldn't try any other treatments but continue with the one you're on and be patient. ��
 
The longer the scab stays on the better, after using Liverpool cream. My mares took 2-3 months to drop off, but when they did it had completely healed from underneath. My Vet had advised me that it takes several weeks and not to expect anything sooner.
 
PorkChop said:
The longer the scab stays on the better, after using Liverpool cream. My mares took 2-3 months to drop off, but when they did it had completely healed from underneath. My Vet had advised me that it takes several weeks and not to expect anything sooner.
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This exactly .... Good luck x
 
Definitely don't do anything yet.
Had Liverpool cream treatment on a level 4 fibroblastic one on a belly, scabbed in 2 weeks after last cream applied, took nearly 8 weeks to come away.
It was a horrid sarcoid that kept on weeping and was about 2 inches across and hanging almost the same before treatment. Had come up over a 4 week period, so was about 7 weeks growth by the time photos sent and cream back.
Good luck op x
 
PorkChop said:
The longer the scab stays on the better, after using Liverpool cream. My mares took 2-3 months to drop off, but when they did it had completely healed from underneath. My Vet had advised me that it takes several weeks and not to expect anything sooner.
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This for me to, not even a scar
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Definitely don't do anything yet.
Had Liverpool cream treatment on a level 4 fibroblastic one on a belly, scabbed in 2 weeks after last cream applied, took nearly 8 weeks to come away.
It was a horrid sarcoid that kept on weeping and was about 2 inches across and hanging almost the same before treatment. Had come up over a 4 week period, so was about 7 weeks growth by the time photos sent and cream back.
Good luck op x
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This. Don't use copper sulphate while it's scabbed and not clear what is going on.
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Definitely don't do anything yet.
Had Liverpool cream treatment on a level 4 fibroblastic one on a belly, scabbed in 2 weeks after last cream applied, took nearly 8 weeks to come away.
It was a horrid sarcoid that kept on weeping and was about 2 inches across and hanging almost the same before treatment. Had come up over a 4 week period, so was about 7 weeks growth by the time photos sent and cream back.
Good luck op x
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Agree with the above. My horse had big sarcoid with deep root ( treated with liverpool cream). Took a good couple of months to come off, left a big hole which slowly filled in and contracted. Now all you can see is a long thin scar which looks like it was stitched, ( it wasn't)
Definitely don't put other potions on it, if you are concerned send a photo to Prof K. Hope you have as good a result as we did
 
Mine had a scab and I thought it hasn't worked until the vet came out, had a look and just pulled it off! The smell was awful, the sarcoid had gone and the scab was hanging on by a thread, unbeknown to me.
 
Mine had a scab and I thought it hasn't worked until the vet came out, had a look and just pulled it off! The smell was awful, the sarcoid had gone and the scab was hanging on by a thread, unbeknown to me.
 
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