Sarcoids issues!

natalielouise-x

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Just wondered if someone could give me some advice..

I currently have a 15 year old TB x warmblood on full loan. We've had him on loan for over a year and a half now.

He has 3 sarcoids on his chest, one in front of the girth, and 2 near his sheath.

The ones near his sheath and in front of his girth have not changed, and do not cause him any problems. The 3 sarcoids on his chest, are all slightly bigger than a pea. 2 are only slightly raised and cause no issues.

One sarcoid is very raised and prominant, and is located right in the middle of his chest. In summer when the flies are bad, my boy tends to rub the top layer of skin off the sarcoid, causing it to become sore, weepy and inflamed. A vicious cycle occurs where the sarcoid drys, scabs over, he rubs it and it becomes sore again.

It is located in a place where rug buckles meet, so a fly rug acctually does more damage than good.

He has also very recently rubs the sarcoid and it appears to have fell off..leaving a small crator type wound.

He has quite sensitive skin, so we are limited to what to put on the sarcoid to keep it clean and fly free. Aloe vera gel helps, but it soon gets absorbed.

We recently called and our vet for advice, and he said nothing can be done until winter, and just to put sudacrem on until then. Sudacrem usually just drops off when its warm weather, so a bit useless really!

His owner has had him from a 5 year old, and when he was around 7 had a course of liverpool cream. She says that this caused him a lot of discomfort, and made the sarcoids grow a little. So the treatment was unsuccessful.

I am reluctant to try this treatment again, and do not want anything to invasive due to the location of the sarcoids, as they would prevent him wearing a martingale or any rugs of any type. As previously stated, he is on loan and 15 and up until this year they have never changed or affected him.

Can anyone recommend firstly something to keep the wound clean and fly free, but not too many chemicals?

Also does anyone have any reviews on thuja tablets and thuja cream being used in conjuction? id like to try and treat the sarcoids from the outside in and in not such a nasty way.

I do not think the sarcoids would have changed if it hadnt been that my boy has been very fly irritated this summer! :(

All help welcome!
 

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My vet specifically told me NOT to use Aloe Vera on sarcoids - AV works by causing the cells to renew, and that's specifically what you don't want to happen with sarcoids.

You can't really do much without the owner's say so, as the horse is on loan. What does she want to do?

I'm afraid to say that sarcoid treatment IS nasty. Mine had one treated last year with Liverpool Cream. It was a flat, occult sarcoid. After first application of the cream it swelled up to tennis ball size, went down by the next day. He needed 3 applications in total, nothing nasty really happened apart from the swelling. After about 3 weeks it scabbed over and looked a bit manky, then after about 6 weeks that fell off. Been checked by vet since who is really pleased with it. Sometimes they do get a bit grotty when you treat them but you have to keep at it, under vet's advice. I can't stress that enough... don't mess around with putting anything on a sarcoid that your vet hasn't recommended. Only use things your vet suggests.

Also, I disagree about when to treat. We treated my horse's sarcoid in July/ Aug last year. The flies never really bothered it TBH (though I think it was flies that set it off in the first place as it was just a patch of darker skin when I first got him). Regarding a martingale, better to treat the sarcoid and have the horse off work for a while or be unable to use a martingale, than leave it to get nasty.
 

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Yup Aloe Vera is a no no for sarciods .
My vet likes you to use Filta Bacc cream as a barrier it's very very good very claggy. It's less oily feeling than sudocrem and less affected by heat.
It's important that you are fastidious about covering them for the sake of the horses around him.
Lasering may be an option at the end of the fly season.
 

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Again what everyone has said about Aloe vera, also my my had laser surgery 4 weeks ago, he has one on his girth area, I was worried about flys but they didnt really go near it & its healing well.
 

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My vets recommended yellow summer fly cream. It stays on very well and keeps the flies off. Only downside is that it stains your fingers if you don't use gloves. I'm not sure if you can buy it in tack shops...
 
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