Schooling advice (bit long, sorry!)

Irishbabygirl

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Hi all, I wondered if anyone would be able to give me any schooling advice with one of my horses?

Just to give you all a bit of background history:

I went to see a 5 year old Irish bred gelding in August 2010 - he was in a very sorry state - underweight, no muscle, terrible feet, never had a jab or the dentist and apparently had been broken and turned away and had done nothing since. (They only told me this once I was there, on the phone they just told me he "hadn't done much"). I probably should have walked away, but he tugged on my heart strings because of the state he was in and had such a kind, trainable looking eye if you know what I mean! And I like a challenge!

I thought, well I'm here now so jumped on and had a walk around thinking to myself "if he doesn't have me off I'll have him!"

He didn't have me off and a passed five stage vetting later I was the proud owner of the Irish thingy! (No breeding in his passport). So got the weight and condition on, feet sorted, saddler, teeth, jabs, wormed etc, etc and spent a year just quietly hacking, building his confidence, lunging, long reining and getting him used to things. He hacks out quietly on his own or with company and is 100% in traffic and very easy to do in all ways. A real gent. He really is a lovely, kind horse who I love to bits.

So August I moved him to a small, quiet DIY yard with a outdoor arena so I could crack on with his schooling. And this is where I need the advice!

I have lessons twice a month. His walk is not consistently correct. I know he hasn't done much but I feel we have been at the same standard for ten months now. I need to really slow down his walk for him to come up and under himself and to almost give his legs time to foot fall correctly and to track up and for him to round. This he manages for a couple of minutes then he hollows and his front legs go at a short, choppy, million miles an hour stride!

He can pace too. I've spent a long time working on his lateral trot which he can manage for a bit then he falls back into a pace at the corner which then unbalances him, or he falls into the pace because he is unbalanced. This is all in the school - hacking he's fine, a real joy.

I've had a physio, vet, saddler, Equine Sports Massage Therapist and dentist out again this year - all fine so I know its just schooling/lessons and lots of it!

I school twice a week, hack twice a week and lunge once a week. I just feel we should be making more progress - he'll be 7 now! Sometimes I wonder if I'm not a good enough rider for him. But if that's the case, who would want to take on a 7 year old horse who (not for lack of trying) is lacking in basic schooling, no breeding and can pace?!

My instructor suggested I lunge in a Pessoa...any ideas anyone?

Many thanks and sorry this is so long!
 
I think walk is the hardest pace to school in & improve. If he's starting to do it nicely, you're on the right track. I'd keep the walking little & often, the second you think he may speed up, transistion to trot for a few strides then back to walk, so you remain in control & he doesn't get the opportunity to practice a bad walk. Same with trot, plenty of transistions before he gets chance to speed up. For corners, half halt before to balance him & ride it like you want to leg yield round into the corner. So for instance on the left rein, think of it as almost going right before you turn left to keep him in balance. And from everything you've said, lots of half halts to keep him balanced, rather than waiting till he's already losing it. If he's good to hack, I'd also be aiming to do most of my schooling out hacking too, then just re-enforcing what he can already do out hacking in the school, & leave introducing anything new for on a hack where he's most comfortable.
 
Thanks Littlelegs, that's good, sound advice. Most of which I'm currently doing, which works but like you suggested, I need to half halt or do a transition before he changes, and I'm guilty of just crossing my fingers and hoping he keeps up the good work!

Its all going to take time - I just thought I would be a little further ahead after ten months! :rolleyes:
 
Don't worry about how long it takes, they all have different rates of development. And some horses it does feel like you aren't progressing much then you get a load of improvement all at once.
 
Sounds like he is struggling in the school, I'd do a little every day either before or after a hack just 5-10 mins to start with rather than a few big sessions a week as this will be harder for him. If he is really struggling to trot round the corners bring him back to walk to start with and then just ask for the walk transition further round the corner as he becomes more comfortable. Also do as much schooling as you can out hacking, if you have a field then thats perfect for introducing trotting round corners as you can just do very big circles.
 
Thanks - again, good advice! I do notice if I do pop in the school after a hack he is much better as he's relaxed, warmed and loosened up.

Sometimes he's fine and tries very hard bless him and I'm thrilled with him, but other days (like today) it was spitting with rain a bit so he wouldn't concentrate at all and it was more like 20 seconds of correct walk and when I asked for trot he started off in a pace rather than a lateral trot!

Which I think spurred me on to write this post! :rolleyes: sometimes its like one step forward three steps back!
 
Thanks - again, good advice! I do notice if I do pop in the school after a hack he is much better as he's relaxed, warmed and loosened up.

Sometimes he's fine and tries very hard bless him and I'm thrilled with him, but other days (like today) it was spitting with rain a bit so he wouldn't concentrate at all and it was more like 20 seconds of correct walk and when I asked for trot he started off in a pace rather than a lateral trot!

Which I think spurred me on to write this post! :rolleyes: sometimes its like one step forward three steps back!

I know that feeling all to well :rolleyes::cool:. I'd go in after a hack if he's better that way, if he's not used to working in the school asking him to work correctly for a long period will be even harder so just keep it short and do as much schooling as possible hacking.

Try to stop worrying about what he should be doing at his age though as they are all individuals and he will get there in time.
 
Yep, schooling out hacking really helps us and he's much better - gone are the days of slopping along on the buckle admiring the scenery!
Bumped into my instructor out walking her dog the other day so she carried on walking with me - bonus! Free lesson! :D
 
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