Schooling in arena help please.....

Lorrie66

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Schooling in arena help please - Hello all you great horse experts, I’ve an idea & wondered if this a good one & what else I could do...

I have written on another post about my horses naughty behaviour in more detail, but basically I have a 9 yr old Andy who is so sweet natured he is adorable –I’ve had him only 5 months. I have recently moved yards as our previous yard had virtually no hacking & we could only school.
BUT his behaviour in the school ranges from very occasionally perfect , mostly annoying/frustrating & sometimes downright really BAD ( lots of pretend spooking & sometimes napping & very rarely a tank across the school). He has had teeth done, back checked ( no problems but slightly stiff left hind hamstring), eyes checked etc & a new custom fit saddle is on order.
He lives on Fast Fibre only and has recently gone onto haylage with no change so far ( only a week though) & besides the bad behaviour happened on hay anyway.
Now after having the physio out she suggested more work in straight lines due to hamstring. Now that I’ve moved yards I can hack out & school that way for a bit. I’ve been in the school once where we are now (lovely big 30x 60) and he did his usual pretend spooking but then settled a bit.

I am rambling a bit but my question/idea is ..........if we hack only for a while & give the school a bit of a rest , how long shall I leave it before re-introducing working in the school? AND when I do re-introduce, is it feasible to do say 5 mins & then hack out & slowly over a few weeks increase the time in the school always ending in a hack? Then hopefully eventually we could do a session of say half an hour in the school and be happy without a hack if need be???! He tends to start of worse & then settles when he realises he has to work.
My worry is that he has perhaps had bad or boring experiences in the past & I have unwittingly exacerbated this initially by not being able to hack out very far or very often. He is a different horse out hacking. We only moved last week & we’ve been out nearly every day & he seems so happy . he does still spook very slightly but at acceptable things , like a bird flying out etc etc. But then happily goes on his way.
I now intend to hack out more often than be in the school, but I am still a dressage wannabe ! So would like him to be happy , content , listening & concentrate without a battle. If it ends up that he is never happy in the school then so be it ¬– he’s stuck with me I’m afraid so I won’t be selling him on  He does appear to have been passed from pillar to post & I am his 3rd owner since he came here in 2008 from Spain. I now think that his bad attitude to the school is why. Do you think he hates it or is uncomfy or both? His new saddle I am hoping will help but not sure it will solve things overnight – however is current saddle is badly fitting & I have had it adjusted twice but it still sits badly on him, hence why I have now forgone a holiday this year & had him measured for a lovely new saddle ......... but I think he may have got into a habit of bad behaviour now which I need to break. Shall I leave any work in the school until we have the new saddle ? It will take about 4 weeks. How do I build his happiness & confidence ?

Many thanks for reading !!!!
 
ps - thought I'd also add that we were having a weekly lesson but I've stopped that for now as we have moved & want to get the new saddle etc. He would have these issues in a lesson but as mentioned we were pretty much confined to the arena previously. We have done only one test - a walk trot test ( very basic I know - but we are starting out together & we came first with 66% - so there could be potential!!??)
 
Firstly I wouldn't ride in your saddle at all if it is really that badly fitted on him, did your saddler tell you how bad it was? it would be handy to know how bad a fit it is, if it's too narrow don't use at all IMO.

When you have your new saddle I would hack out totally for the first 3 to 4 weeks, I wouldn't go on the school at all, get to know each other on grass and having canters out, allowing the horse to move forward, stretch and enjoy himself, this should get rid of his stuffiness, build a bond between you two and then you could do short periods in the school.

I would do what you have already said...10 minutes schooling, then straight out for the hack, this is then a treat for him, after a while he'll realise that if he's a good boy and works well on the school, he then gets to go out.

When your new saddle is fitted make sure you arrange for the saddler to come back and re-fit, they should arrange this with you without you asking, but just to be on the safe side....
 
Hacking doesn't mean you can't school! You can school out hacking, don't a few little halt, walk, trot, transitions here and there, or canter if you have some nice offroad hacking. Even a bit of shoulder in and leg yielding (if you on a nice straight road so you know where the traffic is obviously!). I would be tempted to just have some fun out hacking for the summer then gradually reintroduce the school towards winter time when hacking isn't feesable!
 
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