Scottish Independence?

brucea

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The cost of establishing independence would cripple our economy for years, and we simply aren't possessed of enough of a manufacturing base to maintain a decent balance

If we were going to do it, it should have been back in 1975 when the Oil Industry was at it's prime and we would have had a better revenue generating base.

Look at the level of talent in the Scottish Assembly - do you really think we would survive being independent?? Those bairns would splash all the money on sweeties. We lost our best when John Smith and Donald Dewar went.
 

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What I would like is an idiots guide to the pros and cons before I decide. At the moment I've mainly seen people telling me to say yes and people telling me to say no, but neither really telling me why.
 

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Its an interesting issue for us Scots, for many of us its a heart over head decision. Our hearts say yes to independence but our heads say no. I have yet to meet anyone in Scotland who actually supports independence, no one has given us any information about how it will work, how we will finance ourselves in the long run or anything so why would we say yes. The polls are already showing the majority prefer to remain as part of the UK. I vote SNP but, like many who vote SNP, its not for independence but because they give us a credible option away from the usual 3 parties. For me personally, I like being part of the UK, it has worked so far. Scotland has not lost its identity through the union and never will. We have the best of both worlds now, why change it? It the English I feel sorry for in this, we have a government here in Scotland prepared to make essential things like prescription charges free of charge for example, yet Westminster refuses to do the same for England. I know what side of the Border I'll be staying on...don't care if the weather is pants!
 

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Anyone heard of the McCrone report? If you are on Facebook, there's a McCrone Report Facebook page....that will give you information which supports the YES case. For the NO case....have a look at the video the Better Together campaign tried to ban, citing breech of copyright....when in fact anything used fell under "Fair Useage", rather than breech of Copyright...here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buiXDbgnc4M

Lets have a proper, grown up debate about the reasons for and against....not just scaremongering.
 

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Nay.

Does anyone else find it odd that Alex Salmond, a great advocate of renewable energy, seems to be basing much of his independence campaign on, "But we've got oil!"
 

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The Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the SNP left much to be desired last night, it was an embarassment........ but on here are there many supporters anyway??
 
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He certainly likes a punt on the gee gees. Suppose that just might put of the Pro Independance punters if it became widely known.... The Sport of Kings and all that?
 

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To have the man who freed Scotland's biggest mass murderer free because he was dying of cancer, as our leader? (Nothing to do with a long term independence plan securing oil from Lybia!)

No bloody way. That man is ghastly and the fact he's giving children the vote too out of desperation says it all.
 

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I'm a yes. I think we'd do fine under salmond. Its nicola sturgeon that worries me. She's never seems to do anything but repeat what other members of the party have already said. Her being deputy is my only real concern with voting yes.
 

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BIG NO! from me. The country is in a bad enough state without separating ourselves, we have no army, no real defence and no real economy to support ourselves IMO also a large chunk of GVT money comes from the union does it not? So local GVT would be wel under buget for things like roads, gritting, housing, SWR etc.

Bad idea, I cant stand alex salmond either the lying toerag.
 

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Just because the SNP are the ones taking us through the Referendum, doesn't mean to say that they would automatically be the party in Government in an independent Scotland. They would for the first couple of years in oreder to consolidate the change-over process, but in 2016 there would be a general election in Scotland, and thereafter the people will decide who they wish to govern, be it SNP, Scottish Labour, Scottish Conservatives etc.....so whether you like Salmond/Sturgeon is not so important in the grand scheme of things, because you will have a choice as to whether they govern or not. They were tasked with taking us through the Referendum and change-over process, so you wont be voting for THEM to rule Scotland.

As for the assertion that a large chunk of government money comes from the union, this is WRONG....the Institute of Fiscal studies has confirmed that Scotland generates MORE money for Westminster than Westminster gives back......so being Independent would mean we are better off - even taking into account our share of the National Debt......arm yourselves with facts and debate, dont just sling personal insults about Salmond et al around....all that does is confirm that there is no real case for voting NO.....IMHO.
 
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