seady toe horse now lame :(

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further to my other post about my chaps possible seady toe went to ride today (in boots for fronts) got on the tarmac and he is tender on the hoof with the seady toe,when i got back to yard i had another good look and the hole in the sole of his foot is getting bigger.he is defo walking shorter on that foot so what should i do?? can anyone recomend a very good farrier that does barefoot aswell in the colchester area of essex,or if not a recomended trimmer who really knows what they are talking about as he has lots of other issues and i dont want to make things worse than they are.also should he be seeing a vet for this????please help as im loosing the will to live!!!!:)
 
Seedy toe is a deep seated infection. I recommend a foot soak in CleanTrax to start the battle against the infection, followed by medicated hoof putty in the hole. Whilst battling the infection, you need to sit back and look at your horse's diet objectively. I have seldom seen a horse with seedy toe, who didn't have underlying metabolic issues which had allowed the white line to become poor, and allow the infection to get in.

Good luck.
 
I second getting the vet to have a look as well. X Rays might be in order or it might not be the hoof making him lame for example.
 
ok thanks for ideas,i am ltd to what routes i go down now with this chap as he has a massive amount of exclusions now on insurance regarding lameness and feet due to all the other probs,ie changes in feet,poss navi,bone spavins in both back hocks :(
but will have a chat with vet tomoz and c what options i now have,he just seems to be going from one problem to another poor boy :(
 
Wagtail said:
I would get the vet out but in the meantime try poulticing the foot.
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^^ this ^^

Hopefully someone on here can recommend a good farrier or barefoot trimmer around you, also have a good look at his diet, theres some excellent advise on diet on some of the barefoot threads on here.
I'd also say you need to keep the feet as dry as possible until you can get someone to cut out the seedy toe.
If its seedy toe + or - an abscess, it is treatable, but the sooner you get on top of it the better ( as I said on your previous post )
Good luck
Kx
 
ok thanks,hes out 24/7 at the mo so keeping it dry is a bit of a prob,cant bring him in as no hay at the mo.(thats another story)but now looking in to another person to look at his feet.and will phone vet for a chat as he knows history.
 
Unless you can get your horse out of the wet you will be unsuccessful at treating the seedy toe until you can. Seedy toe is cause by an anaerobic infection which means it can't survive in oxygen. Some of his toe may need cutting back and clearing out, this exposes it to the air and helps kill it. Packing the hole is a very bad idea! The best product for treating steady toe is copper sulphate and eucalyptus, you can buy it premixed it's called antibac from Swan or mix some yourself.

I saw the pic you put up, since the horse is now going lame it's possible that it is Infact a gravel!
 
Alphamare said:
Unless you can get your horse out of the wet you will be unsuccessful at treating the seedy toe until you can. Seedy toe is cause by an anaerobic infection which means it can't survive in oxygen. Some of his toe may need cutting back and clearing out, this exposes it to the air and helps kill it. Packing the hole is a very bad idea! The best product for treating steady toe is copper sulphate and eucalyptus, you can buy it premixed it's called antibac from Swan or mix some yourself.

I saw the pic you put up, since the horse is now going lame it's possible that it is Infact a gravel!
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thanks alphamare,ive had another look today and dried it right out and the part that is sole side is very quickly becoming a hole!!!the crack that runs round from it looks like its opening up also,ive never had a horse with seady toe so not sure if it is or not,would gravel do this??there is another horse at yard thats on box rest with abcess so he can come in tomoz and be poulticed i thought id see what it does over the next couple of days,before i jump to having vet out.
 
Zimzim from the forum has a horse which had seedy toe. Her farrier did a bit of cutting away. She now cleans it methodically EVERY day and uses Stockholm Tar before he goes out in the field. It's cleared it up a treat. If you'd asked me before, I would say to never pack it with tar, but in this case it's worked fantastically. Her horse was also lame with it, but after a few days, back to normal.
 
LucyPriory said:
It is harder to sort but not impossible. Horse in this post was and still is out 24/7 on wet ground. The trick? Sorting the diet and regular, correct trimming.

http://barefoothorseblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/barefoot-rehabilitation-cracking-end.html
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hi lucy,when it started he was being stabled 15hrs a day and had been for nearly 2 months and being fed soaked hay and fed fast fibre with mag ox etc and it was getting worse,in the end i decided that as he was not happy being stabled for this long and it wasnt making any difference,in fact he was getting worse,he also has spavins in both back hocks so he was getting very stiff.that i would see what happened if he went out.he is actually moving a lot better since he has been out?which is wierd??vets coming tomorrow so hopefully i will get to the bottom of it.
 
Don't forget what you are seeing at the bottom of the wall white line junction is the past. Depending how fast the wall is growing down that could be nine months ago... Keeping up a balanced low sugar diet will eventually grow good connection down to ground level. Once connection is lost that's it, it wont/can't repair you have to grow good healthy connection down. Good trimming facilitates this as opposed to poor trimming which can cause lever forces thwarting maintenance of good connection.
 
amandap said:
Don't forget what you are seeing at the bottom of the wall white line junction is the past. Depending how fast the wall is growing down that could be nine months ago... Keeping up a balanced low sugar diet will eventually grow good connection down to ground level. Once connection is lost that's it, it wont/can't repair you have to grow good healthy connection down. Good trimming facilitates this as opposed to poor trimming which can cause lever forces thwarting maintenance of good connection.
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thanks amandap,it would be about now that the bottom of his hoof is the last bit from the shod hoof growing out,so do you think that is what i am now seeing as his feet have never looked this good :)
i am looking in to getting a different person to trim him as i feel his feet could be more balanced.i cant help but think that the increased movement that he is now getting being out 24/7 is playing a big part as the sole is starting to concave (sp)im now looking into maybe doing some sort of track system for him and my mums new youngster who is also barefoot as im hopeing we can have the best of both worlds ie low suger but plenty of movement.
 
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