Second hand water storage tanks that have carried liquids.....

[pinkcatkin]

Does anyone use those huge white plastic square carriers in aluminum frames? They usually come with their in-built pallet on bottom and are used for transporting liquids in bulk, such as soya oil, trace elements, etc. etc. Have just been given one for our 6 acre field but it has carried Headland Stag which contains manganese and magesium for crop nutrients.

Are there any brainiacs out there who could comment on whether after rigorous cleaning there shoud be any problems using this for water (bearing in mind I have a foal coming)?

Any comments gratefully appreciated.

 

[Box_Of_Frogs]

I'd google both those chemicals PinkW and check on their toxicity. But I don't think either of them are toxic after the containers have been mercilessly scrubbed out. Guess you could store some water in it and then try drinking it yourself.

If we stop seeing posts from you on the forum, we'll all know not to use them!

It would be a service to the equine world!

And then I could have your new baby!

 

[pinkcatkin]

Oh ha ha!!!!

Have googled the products and both magnesium and manganese are essential for bone regeneration and also fertility, but I cannot find out whether there is likely to remain too high a level, even after scrubbing. I suspect not, especially if I scrub the thing within an inch of its life. (I am very thorough in my equine hygiene, if not in my own home.... but that's another story

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Do you mean it would be service to the equine world if I stop posting?!!! You can't have my baby, my baby is all miiiiiiiiiiiine. Well, all Rosie's and hopefully she will let me have a look in!

 

[dixie]

How are you going to scrub them out? Our containers having quite small holes at the top?

You could check with your vet. Don't they give magnesium to calm horses down? Sorry, more questions than answers!

 

[pinkcatkin]

Yes, they have small holes at top but we will cut the top off altogether but keep the side cage bits so that it can be used between two fields as water trough. If you cut the top off you can then put them on their sides and get inside to scrub.

Yes, will check with vet. ooooooooooooh, do you think I will get a calm neddy? Well that'll be a first then!!!

 

[Fransurrey]

I'm sure you're not planning to, but don't use detergent to scrub them, just lots of fresh water! I can't imagine that any more than a trace will remain after scrubbing. Do you have access to a steam cleaner? Perhaps sweet talk a local mechanic to use his (or hers...)!

 

[Boltonrider]

!!!! CAUTION - ALERT - DANGER !!!!

Suggestion - DONT use a pre used container for water storage -EVER - full stop!!!

YOU CANNOT REMOVE traces of chemical agents from these containers completely, they are made for one specific agent, and then after use they are to be destroyed under chemical hazard disposal regulations. Put simply, the chemical traces eat into the inner plastic wall, and cannot be removed.
Steam cleaning will not remove the danger, however it may put you in the critical care unit at your local hospital!!

How do I know....I spent 3 months taking various ADR and hazardous goods courses, including the management of incidents involving chemical agents....I also transport the highest level of hazardous substances!!!

I would suggest you consider only buying new, excess stock from suppliers is always good for a bargain!

 

[Santa_Claus]

I have to agree you shouldn't reuse any form of drum/container as you will never remove all traces of the previous contents no matter how hard you try. Trust me I know

Safest thing is buy a new one or get a 2nd hand one which has solely been use to previous transport water!

 

[merlinsquest]

Surely magnesium and soya oil are not that hazardous though.... I could understand the danger if it was some radio-active chemical, but the ones in this particular container sound harmless enough!!!

 

[zigzag]

I always say will you want your water stored in such a container (even when scrubbed out) and use that water for drinking and cooking .....

 

[Boltonrider]

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Surely magnesium and soya oil are not that hazardous though.... I could understand the danger if it was some radio-active chemical, but the ones in this particular container sound harmless enough!!!

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Magnesium has never been tested fully enough to be sure of the dangers, the human body requires it daily in small amounts. However over indulgence/exposure is known to be related to premature ageing, referenced in Diabetes, possible irritation of the respiratory tract.
Again Soya Oil has never been fully tested, although recognised as usable in foodstuffs, when handling, you are required to wear full fit goggles/chemical protection clothing or aprons/chem gloves. Known as a irritant to skin and eyes.

Taking this into consideration and the fact that no matter what you do with that container, traces will ALWAYS remain present.... do you really want to take a chance????

Everyone to there own... however, I'd always give one thought to anyone considering it.... You've probably spent a fortune on your horse(s), you probably love them to bits, do you really want to take a chance for a few quid???

 

[Boltonrider]

Just a point.....
A Large number of chemicals sound and appear to be harmless....
Even those used in food and drink....

MANY of these are dangerous to handle, or be exposed to. The majority of chemicals in our lives have been made safer by various processes, however they are still a chemical with dangers of some level.

Prior to, these chemicals are usually transported in containers described above...also known as IBC's, for bulk transport.
At this early stage, when being moved around, the potential dangers from these containers are MUCH higher, with some very simple and everyday chemicals, posing a threat to life and serious environmental risks!!!

As simple example, do you weed killers / fertilisers?.... In the early stages most are carciogenic (cancer causing) and pose serious dangers to those handling and working with!!