Seditive??

[Kristine]

Hey guys,

We have clipped spring twice this winter and he is far from EASY to clip.

We have tried working him before, Lunging him, Free schooling him everything. We've also resorted to a twitch (once and used correctly) but nothing seems to calm him,

So basically i wondered if there were any seditives out there that can be given oraly just to sedate him slightly (nothing too much)

OR

If you have any other idea's on how to make him easier to clip

thanks guys

K

 

[Sarah_Jane]

You can gice ACP (tablets in food) or Sedilin (paste syringed in mouth) which are available from your vet. They will both have a slight sedative effect which should help. Most people find Sedilin best.

 

[Kristine]

Thank you!

Will wirte them down!

 

[mickey]

Sedalin /ACP does not always work on all horses. I used it to clip mine, and it worked well (but only lasted for 20 mins then wore off). I also had to twitch him then and so my preferred option with a really difficult to clip horse would be veterinary sedation or repeated exposure to get them used to the clippers.

 

[lucy245]

Sedalin and ACP are not particularly good/safe to use clipping. Best option is for them to be sedated by a vet.

 

[Agent XXX999]

Judging from your experience i would not sedate, as you simply do not seem to have the knowledge. I would call your vet

 

[Toby_Zaphod]

My lad, despite spending hours trying to get him used to clippers, is still terrified so I use sedalin prior to clipping. It works well with my him but if you have not used it before get someone on your yard with experience to give the dose, it needs to be right. We pay around £11 a tube for Sedalin Gel.

 

[lillie07]

I agree with FF. I think you should just call you vet. How Spring doing?

 

[Kristine]

IT's not me who would be giving it. It would be lisa. He's fine

 

[galaxy]

A vet would probably want to come and have a look at him anyway before giving you ACP or Sedalin to check him over.. Personally I don't think either are much use for clipping, and you'd be beter having him properly sedated.

Your best bet if you can get near him with clippers is to spend all summer practising getting him happy with them in preparation for next winter.

 

[lillie07]

It is just an observation, they are POM and should only be given under supervision of a Vet- especially in the case of novice horse owners. From what I have seen, Lisa is even less likely to be capable than you. I would also be concerned about clipping out Spring unless he has put on a fair amount of weight and is in better health. Just my opinion.

 

[cheeryplatypus]

be careful as they can still lash out quite badly although sedated. some horses are even worse as sedation removes their inhibitions- have a chat with the vet first

 

[Agent XXX999]

If its Lisa I would def call the vet!

 

[lucemoose]

ACp causes them to break out in a sweat in the head , ears and flank areas. Is not a good clipping sedation as horse will be dopey, but highly unpredictable to boot. Vets sedation fees are worth the money. Smaller, quieter clippers?

 

[Dougie]

she only asked for advice no need for the tone!!

Sedation- i would get him sedated by vet as its easier and there is leff footering with tablets and pastes. it also less likey to stress him out...unless he is scared of needles

 

[vivhewe]

[ QUOTE ]
It is just an observation, they are POM and should only be given under supervision of a Vet- especially in the case of novice horse owners. From what I have seen, Lisa is even less likely to be capable than you. I would also be concerned about clipping out Spring unless he has put on a fair amount of weight and is in better health. Just my opinion.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree everyone is entitled to an opinion but I have known many novice owners who have had more common sense and been better owners than a lot of people who claim to be knowledgeable and would be more likely to give a horse a hiding for being bad to clip rather than thinking a sedative would be the kinder option.

Obviously if KMS hasn't sedated a horse before then it would be best to seek advice, but everyone has to do something for the first time

 

[Dougie]

couldt have put it better myself, many novice owners are far better than those owners who think there gods gift but are in actual fact so far up thier own a*se they treat horses like sh*t but are the first ones to criticise others!!!

 

[MagicMelon]

Sedalin is dodgy - We used it once for one of mine for clipping. He'd go dopey for 5 mins then suddenly wake up and panic for a minute, he just kept doing this continually. It was horrible. And we'd used the amount the vet recommended.

 

[lillie07]

I completely agree in most cases this is true- everybody has to start somewhere but it is normally sensible to have somebody experienced with you for guidance.
In no way am I preaching to be something I am not, I am no vet but it cant have been more than 3 months ago she posted photographs of her horses in a very bad way being charged about and jumped. KMS69 then posted that they were only that way because she knew no better. Now if she doesnt know that it isnt normal for a horse to look so emiciated, should she really be administering sedation?!!!
I have NEVER EVER jumped on somebody on this forum, if I dont like what I read I normally move on but this really got to me and my heart goes out to those poor ponies.

 

[lillie07]

I can guarantee you my horses are treated with the utmost respect and I am far from up my own arse.
I just can’t forget as quickly as everybody else seems to have the state those ponies were in.