Shedding frogs or thrush or both?

[muff747]

I took on an 11.3 mare on loan a week ago. Her feet had been neglected and last summer she gained too much weight and I think she had a brush with lami. She was on loan to someone else on my yard so I have known her for the last year or so but don't know about her history before that.
I've rasped her toes a little to start to try to get them back, she is sound on tarmac but ouchy on very stoney ground.
I'm fairly sure that's due to thrush and after I had a chance to scrub her feet clean, it appears her frogs could be shedding. They smell strongly under the flaps and my question is should I trim off the old tissue to let the air get to the thrush? You can see a perfectly formed tiny frog underneath but I'm worried it will make her even more sore.

 

[Jools2345]

bump, i am asking same question

 

[mynutmeg]

Trim off any ragged bits to let the air in - they will come easily with a pair of scissors then you can get in to treat as well. Any deep pockets of thrush do need opened but might be better to have the farrier do that.

 

[mightymammoth]

It sounds like thrush to me as I had a similar problem. I thought I was treating for thrush but the trimmer came and put a hoof pick down his central sulcus and fished out a load of thrushy white bits.

There's lots of different treatments but if you google petes goo that it what I use because which i syringe into the central sulcas and it's cleared it.

I've also heard that sudocrem is good and red horse do a good range of thrush treatments.

Soaking the hoof in water with a disolved milton tablet in is good but think you need to keep the hoof soaked for at least ten minutes to kill the thrush.

I've done this a few times and it helped but wouldn't want to do it regularly as milton is quite harsh.

 

[muff747]

Thanks everyone. I know it is thrush but I think I didn't explain my question clearly, sorry
I know it is thrush, but what I don't know is, are the pockets that have formed over all four frogs likely to be caused by the thrush eating it away or are the frogs all shedding?
And my second question is, should I take all the loose frog away to open it up to the air and risk making her more sore, or should I just treat it with gunk of whatever you find works best?
There is quite a lot of loose frog to trim away, probably about 2/3rds of the outer "shell". WWYD?

 

[Mrs Jingle]

I've done this a few times and it helped but wouldn't want to do it regularly as milton is quite harsh.

How can milton be harsh, you can wash and soak babies bottles and teats in it and then use without rinsing? So it is harmless inside a babies mouth but harsh on a horse's sole and frog?

OP I would just leave the old frog to come away naturally as nature intended, but just give a good soak regularly in either Milton solution, salty water or similar until the frogs have come away completely.

 

[paddy555]

How can milton be harsh, you can wash and soak babies bottles and teats in it and then use without rinsing? So it is harmless inside a babies mouth but harsh on a horse's sole and frog?

OP I would just leave the old frog to come away naturally as nature intended, but just give a good soak regularly in either Milton solution, salty water or similar until the frogs have come away completely.

this is what I would do. if you don't want to soak then wash it out (between the 2 layers of frog) with milton and cottonwool and then stuff it with sudocreme.

 

[Clava]

Flaps can be a nightmare for infection like thrush to hide under (I recenty found a nasty hoe under a flap that I didn't know was there), I wuld always remove them.

 

[mightymammoth]

How can milton be harsh, you can wash and soak babies bottles and teats in it and then use without rinsing? So it is harmless inside a babies mouth but harsh on a horse's sole and frog?

OP I would just leave the old frog to come away naturally as nature intended, but just give a good soak regularly in either Milton solution, salty water or similar until the frogs have come away completely.

that's me told

 

[Mrs Jingle]

It sounds like thrush to me as I had a similar problem. I thought I was treating for thrush but the trimmer came and put a hoof pick down his central sulcus and fished out a load of thrushy white bits.

There's lots of different treatments but if you google petes goo that it what I use because which i syringe into the central sulcas and it's cleared it.

I've also heard that sudocrem is good and red horse do a good range of thrush treatments.

Soaking the hoof in water with a disolved milton tablet in is good but think you need to keep the hoof soaked for at least ten minutes to kill the thrush.

I've done this a few times and it helped but wouldn't want to do it regularly as milton is quite harsh.

that's me told

Sorry I didn't mean to sound grouchy!