Shocking new video on horse slaughter

[Moomin1]

Chin up hunny. No reason to attack someone for caring. Put more effort into someone nasty and mean.

I do hunny. My career entails putting plenty of effort into addressing the nasty and mean!

I am not attacking anyone - I am merely saying that attentions are misplaced when it comes to this subject.

 

[patseyr]

Bigger picture. Make slaughterhouses local, available, accessible, responsible and accountable and you will not have to watch videos like this one. Short journey, clean kill, minimal stress.

Exactly. I dont think anyone here agrees with the video, but putting horses to sleep in a humane way is sometimes the correct thing to do.

 

[rhino]

Exactly. I dont think anyone here agrees with the video, but putting horses to sleep in a humane way is sometimes the correct thing to do.

This. The whole reason things are as bad as they are in the US are because animal activists like PETA campaigned for the banning of slaughter. They are as much responsible for the terrible situation as anyone...

 

[Dolcé]

I dont know how these PETA and other cretins dare !! they were stupid enough fight to have the slaughter houses in the US closed down!!! where did they think the unwanted horses would end up ??they are responsible for the cruelty of long distance transport to barbaric conditions in mexican and canadian faciltys or for sick or old horses to be abandoned ,ABSULUTE BUNCH OF MUPPETS they are dangerous idiots

This, they closed down all the slaughterhouses and now their 'unwanted' are either dumped to die of starvation or transported into Canada, and I believe Mexico, to be slaughtered in less than ideal circumstances. If PETA and other such organisations want to do something that will actually HELP then they should be calling for legislation on breeding, worldwide problems with transporting to slaughter and reinstating licensed slaughter houses across America.

The aggression on this post is uncalled for!

 

[rhino]

If PETA and other such organisations want to do something that will actually HELP then they should be calling for legislation on breeding, worldwide problems with transporting to slaughter and reinstating licensed slaughter houses across America.

They now (reluctantly) are I think they've realised their mistake. Well one mistake, they continue to make plenty more

 

[Dolcé]

Let's hope they get it done quickly and stop those poor animals being driven for days to their death. I am afraid that PETA is one organisation I cannot abide, too many memories of the silly things they have done and been involved with. The propaganda they use is very misleading and deflects from the bad enough truth!

 

[rhino]

Let's hope they get it done quickly and stop those poor animals being driven for days to their death. I am afraid that PETA is one organisation I cannot abide, too many memories of the silly things they have done and been involved with. The propaganda they use is very misleading and deflects from the bad enough truth!

We can but hope...

 

[perfect11s]

This, they closed down all the slaughterhouses and now their 'unwanted' are either dumped to die of starvation or transported into Canada, and I believe Mexico, to be slaughtered in less than ideal circumstances. If PETA and other such organisations want to do something that will actually HELP then they should be calling for legislation on breeding, worldwide problems with transporting to slaughter and reinstating licensed slaughter houses across America.

The aggression on this post is uncalled for!

Sorry but I feel
very strongly about this issue these misguided fools like peta do untold
harm to animal welfare with there nieave simplistic view of the world...

 

[Dolcé]

Sorry but I feel
very strongly about this issue these misguided fools like peta do untold
harm to animal welfare with there nieave simplistic view of the world...

Sorry, I quoted you because I totally agreed with what you were saying, the aggression bit didn't apply to that post and I should have said thread rather than post, apologies for not being clear.

 

[lilly1]

I haven’t read all the replies but I don’t think the ops post was about the slaughter as such more on the inhumane treatment and death. I have no problem with horses in the food chain. What I do have a problem with and this goes for any animal, is the poor welfare of said animal while alive.

 

[Tiffany]

I am at the point of dispair, yes horses get slaughtered. DO you eat MEAT?

What's that got to do with anything. We all know animals are slaughtered, I think it's the way they are slaughtered that's the issue.

Don't you think they deserve to be slaughtered in the most humane way possible and without travelling for miles first?

 

[SpruceRI]

Totally agree, the americans actually need more slaughter houses which are properly regulated.

Agree with this. Having more slaughter houses should mean that animals don't have to travel so far to be slaughtered.

 

[Amaranta]

I think it's very ignorant of people to focus on the 'terrible' fact that horses are slaughtered, rather than the very real welfare issue of the poor transport and slaughter methods involved overseas. Too many people get hung up on the fact that horses are slaughtered - that is not an issue if it is humanely carried out.

Could not agree more, it is the do gooders in the USA who caused this problem by banning slaughter in the first place. One of the good things Obama has done is to re introduce it, so these poor animals are not forced into foreign slaughterhouses, the Mexican ones are the worst and a whole load of American horses end up there.

 

[Natalieshort]

oh my god.

 

[AmyMay]

Could not agree more, it is the do gooders in the USA who caused this problem by banning slaughter in the first place. One of the good things Obama has done is to re introduce it, so these poor animals are not forced into foreign slaughterhouses, the Mexican ones are the worst and a whole load of American horses end up there.

This.

 

[SusannaF]

PETA actually endorsed the repeal of the legislation that effectively banned slaughter in the US, believe it or not. They're in favour of local slaughter.

 

[Alec Swan]

Since both Britain and America have disabled their own horse slaughter businesses, when horses do now go for slaughter, the traveling times and conditions are actually worse than those inflicted upon cattle.

Without a carcass value for a horse, those that prove to be unsuitable, either live out lives of misery, and as field ornaments, or if they happen to be female, they will all so often be put in foal, and those who campaign for equine welfare, don't seem to be any happier with that.

Those who have brought about the end of the slaughter trade for horses, in Britain and America, have been unbelievably short sighted, and are responsible to a very large extent for the appalling welfare problems which we now encounter.

I live in Norfolk, and no I wouldn't ship my horses down to Bristol, firstly because it wouldn't make economic sense, and secondly because the duration of the journey would trouble me, knowing where I was taking them. Were there a Norfolk based abattoir, and I could be present at the end, then I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I have a passport for a mare who was gifted to me, and there is a section, which has been signed by the previous owner, which clearly states that she is not to go for human consumption. Having given my word, I shall keep it. We now have passports issued for our youngsters, and the exact wording is that "The equine animal is not intended for human consumption", which presumably means that providing that no lifelong banned substances are administered, then they can go into the meat trade.

Those slaughtermen filmed were a disgrace. It was a display of total incompetence, and if I owned that abattoir, that man would have been given instant dismissal. Horses can be slaughtered in a humane and ethical manner.

The BHS, The Jockey Club, the RSPCA and all equine charities should stand together and encourage Defra to support the opening of abattoirs which are licensed for equines, properly set up and organised and run. We need to give the horse a final value, instead of resigning it to the status of being a liability.

I feel very strongly about this, as you may gather, and it is not my wish to cause offence. If I have, I apologise.

Alec.

 

[Taffyhorse]

Since both Britain and America have disabled their own horse slaughter businesses, when horses do now go for slaughter, the traveling times and conditions are actually worse than those inflicted upon cattle.

Without a carcass value for a horse, those that prove to be unsuitable, either live out lives of misery, and as field ornaments, or if they happen to be female, they will all so often be put in foal, and those who campaign for equine welfare, don't seem to be any happier with that.

Those who have brought about the end of the slaughter trade for horses, in Britain and America, have been unbelievably short sighted, and are responsible to a very large extent for the appalling welfare problems which we now encounter.

I live in Norfolk, and no I wouldn't ship my horses down to Bristol, firstly because it wouldn't make economic sense, and secondly because the duration of the journey would trouble me, knowing where I was taking them. Were there a Norfolk based abattoir, and I could be present at the end, then I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I have a passport for a mare who was gifted to me, and there is a section, which has been signed by the previous owner, which clearly states that she is not to go for human consumption. Having given my word, I shall keep it. We now have passports issued for our youngsters, and the exact wording is that "The equine animal is not intended for human consumption", which presumably means that providing that no lifelong banned substances are administered, then they can go into the meat trade.

Those slaughtermen filmed were a disgrace. It was a display of total incompetence, and if I owned that abattoir, that man would have been given instant dismissal. Horses can be slaughtered in a humane and ethical manner.

The BHS, The Jockey Club, the RSPCA and all equine charities should stand together and encourage Defra to support the opening of abattoirs which are licensed for equines, properly set up and organised and run. We need to give the horse a final value, instead of resigning it to the status of being a liability.

I feel very strongly about this, as you may gather, and it is not my wish to cause offence. If I have, I apologise.

Alec.

No offence taken here - one of the most sensible posts I've ever read!

 

[wildoat]

Since both Britain and America have disabled their own horse slaughter businesses, when horses do now go for slaughter, the traveling times and conditions are actually worse than those inflicted upon cattle.

Without a carcass value for a horse, those that prove to be unsuitable, either live out lives of misery, and as field ornaments, or if they happen to be female, they will all so often be put in foal, and those who campaign for equine welfare, don't seem to be any happier with that.

Those who have brought about the end of the slaughter trade for horses, in Britain and America, have been unbelievably short sighted, and are responsible to a very large extent for the appalling welfare problems which we now encounter.

I live in Norfolk, and no I wouldn't ship my horses down to Bristol, firstly because it wouldn't make economic sense, and secondly because the duration of the journey would trouble me, knowing where I was taking them. Were there a Norfolk based abattoir, and I could be present at the end, then I wouldn't give it a second thought.

I have a passport for a mare who was gifted to me, and there is a section, which has been signed by the previous owner, which clearly states that she is not to go for human consumption. Having given my word, I shall keep it. We now have passports issued for our youngsters, and the exact wording is that "The equine animal is not intended for human consumption", which presumably means that providing that no lifelong banned substances are administered, then they can go into the meat trade.

Those slaughtermen filmed were a disgrace. It was a display of total incompetence, and if I owned that abattoir, that man would have been given instant dismissal. Horses can be slaughtered in a humane and ethical manner.

The BHS, The Jockey Club, the RSPCA and all equine charities should stand together and encourage Defra to support the opening of abattoirs which are licensed for equines, properly set up and organised and run. We need to give the horse a final value, instead of resigning it to the status of being a liability.

I feel very strongly about this, as you may gather, and it is not my wish to cause offence. If I have, I apologise.

Alec.

I rather reluctantly watched the video so I could understand the OP.
Truly shocking, and you would think totally unnecessary in this day and age.

Alec I think you have given a balanced and sensible response, it seems a real shame there can't be a solution which is as kind as possible to these poor animals.
Yes I eat meat, but I also feel very strongly we have an obligation to treat all
animals, whether cattle, horses, dogs etc all with respect and compassion always, and, never more so than when we choose to end their lives , unfortunately the human race has a pretty bad record re other species generally.

Tony

 

[Echo Bravo]

The Americans can look after their own welfare of animals,we should be looking after our own. PETA is slime and I don't endorse them. But CHARITY begins at home, so if you don't want to see horses travelled long journeys for slaughter, back WHW...