Should I just give up?

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Firstly I do appreciate that 2020 has been really rubbish for a lot of people so I am in no way putting down other peoples problems. I am just really struggling with myself at the moment and where I go from here.
After 30 years of riding, 20 years of owning horses and competing/working with horses I am now at a complete loss as to what I do next. I have always had to make do and mend but that's ok, I have done well considering and had a lot of fun. But now things are not fun. My current horse is 17 and has decided he's had enough of training. That is fine, he's given me 9 years of ups and downs and education. I wouldn't pass him on as that wouldn't be right, he owes me nothing and is the type that would be easily abused for his easy going nature. He copes with hacking once or twice a week but is still sharp. So he's here to stay until one of his health problems becomes too much of an issue.
My trainer suggested looking for a horse on loan to fill his shoes, she seemed to think that there would be someone out there with a reasonable horse that would appreciate the high level of care and training and topclass home I could offer in these uncertain times. 7 months later, a very expensive membership of Right Horse Right Home, which has yielded nothing but time wasters and constant trawling of Facebook etc I have had no luck whatsoever. I was one of those people around 12 years ago loaning out my Medium horse as I was in a sticky situation, but these sorts of horses are so rare and competition fierce. I have had to accept that as an over 25 rider, I am no longer attractive to those with nice horses to loan out despite my other assets. What has been left has been horses out of work so a huge risk as to whether they can do my job, sick, lame or dangerous.
I have massively down graded my expectations to try and find just something that a - has 3 even paces and b - can maintain a steady contact. Even this is proving so hard.
I have a small budget to buy but no where near enough for the crazy prices horses are making at the moment, I have tried ex-racers as I worked with racehorses for years and have successfully reschooled and sold these types but even there I am drawing blanks.
I did find one nice horse but his owner rejected me, I am not sure why, to be honest I think she had so many suitable people she could take her pick and that person was not me.
To be honest my confidence which was fine, is now fragile. I know I need more to save more money and am doing that. I just feel really down and like a fraud, trying to promote myself to find that special horse when I haven't trained since March or competed since January. I have tried to find horses to ride or take schoolmaster lessons, but literally every avenue I try, I draw a blank so I am finding it so hard to be positive. Having Nickel is making it harder as I have him to do twice a day and I work full time.
I have tried a lot of horses but as I sit here, in a fair amount of pain after being buried by a potential horse that appeared to be fine and I thought was the one, I am considering do I have to accept that I no longer have a place in all of this. I just cannot afford to buy that basic horse to train into my next best friend. I have been keeping optimistic, but each failure and rejection just makes all of this journey so painful.
I don't know what I expect to come from this post, I just want to feel better putting down in writing and getting how I feel off my chest. I will admit I am very depressed and sadly I can't see a way out of this at the moment as I have always lived for doing things with my horses, I live my own so pretty much my whole life to this point has revolved around them outside of work.
 

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I think this is such a difficult position to be in and it sucks. a lot of this resonates with me, I'm lucky to still have one horse on the road but owning 6 and only having one to ride is not a great ratio! Realistically i should downsize and get myself a bit of brainspace but I just can't do it. plus the retirees cost very little in terms of £, just quite a bit of time and effort.

I've had an eye out for another project to fill my stable but even the bargain basement variety are making strong money. I'm giving up looking for now I think, just have to wait for my foal to grow up instead I think.

I think lockdown/covid is really scuppering you because it's obliterated so many other opportunities. Does your trainer have any suggestions? i think networking is what you need now because like you say the market has gone bonkers and so personal connections are likely to be the thing that helps. I got my ex racer direct from the trainer on a personal recommendation (that hasn't worked out but it was just bad luck otherwise I'd have 2 in work now). alternatively might a share work in the short-medium term? i know it's not the same, but you might get lucky and find something rewarding.
 

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I think this is such a difficult position to be in and it sucks. a lot of this resonates with me, I'm lucky to still have one horse on the road but owning 6 and only having one to ride is not a great ratio! Realistically i should downsize and get myself a bit of brainspace but I just can't do it. plus the retirees cost very little in terms of £, just quite a bit of time and effort.

I've had an eye out for another project to fill my stable but even the bargain basement variety are making strong money. I'm giving up looking for now I think, just have to wait for my foal to grow up instead I think.

I think lockdown/covid is really scuppering you because it's obliterated so many other opportunities. Does your trainer have any suggestions? i think networking is what you need now because like you say the market has gone bonkers and so personal connections are likely to be the thing that helps. I got my ex racer direct from the trainer on a personal recommendation (that hasn't worked out but it was just bad luck otherwise I'd have 2 in work now). alternatively might a share work in the short-medium term? i know it's not the same, but you might get lucky and find something rewarding.

Thank you for such a nice reply. I am working so hard on word of mouth, it's always done the job in the past but we are drawing blanks. I would struggle to fit in a share with doing Mr N during the week and there is nothing suitable on the yard where we are at the moment. I do keep my eyes out for people looking for help at the weekends.

I think trainer is just as frustrated as me and has no other advise now other than to keep looking.
 

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I'm sorry you are having such a tough time. Agree with MP networking is going to be the best way at the minute, especially as sales and loans seem to be going within seconds of being posted.

I don't have anything else to add, sorry, but wanted to say don't give up, maybe just give yourself some space
 

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I need another - when my OH is back in the saddle (he's getting there...) we'll want to take 4 out at once, and 'my' mare has decided she quite likes looking after the children and having a 'Mummy hack' a couple of times a week. So I'm riding OH's horse most of the time, but that won't last. I have half heartedly looked, but with my girl deciding to adopt the kids, I'm not sure what I actually need. I have decided to leave the market this winter and wait. It needs to calm down, we need to see what the economy does....

I agree with the poster above - what about finding a share? I had an amazing lady share my TB years ago, who came (for free) and schooled her. She wanted something to ride, and her riding my horse improved the horse, so we had a good arrangement that benefitted us both!
 

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i really feel for you. i would say, don't give up. but maybe it would be worth planning to step back for a couple of weeks (or months) on purpose so you can re-focus, work a bit on your self belief (you're clearly not a fraud!), save some more cash and come back in a short while hopefully refreshed and energised - you sound beaten down by it all which is understandable. perhaps a defined break will help with that. and sometimes things crop up when you least expect it. Plus, winter is just the most horrible time for horse owners, dunno about anyone else but I get a massive attack of the blues when the clocks change and it takes a while to pull back out of that and get positive again.
 

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Your story is a common one. I have been you a fair few times but I am very lucky as someone will usually send me a nice enough horse to keep me going. I work really hard at networking in horses and you just never know when random connections will pay off. I volunteer at a lot of stuff, ride out for people for free and if I have nothing to ride will go and school horses for free. Through this I have the best 3 horses to ride that I have ever had through a random connection and saving up for the 3rd. It has taken me years to get into this situation and have really nice horses rather than just average.

I think you need to decide what you can do around your other commitments.

I think horse prices will drop, they are slowly falling, though if the TB sales are anything to go by they are pretty buoyant but I think there has been more considered breeding in the last few years of these.

Ultimately if you are like me and just an average Joe playing in a very expensive sport it is always going to be hard work and more downs than ups.
 

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I just wnated to say that I am really sorry you are in this situation. I have never found Right Horse Right Home anything other than totally useless so I gave up on it a long time ago. You say you have trawled FB? I assume you have already put up WANTED ads there or other free sites?

I DO think as we head into recession there will be people struggling to manage but reluctant to sell. (I may well be one of them!) So I would not give up. You have been looking when demand for horses has been at an all time high, But that bubble will burst soon and I think a lot of horses could be coming up for sale or loan over winter.

Or perhaps buying a youngster? A friend who's horse has just been badly injured in car accident and won't work again, has bought a lovely 2 year old as that was all she could afford. But she will enjoy producing him with the aim of eventing when he is 5.
 

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Why not try the Thoroughbred Retraining Centre if you're used to thoroughbreds- they have some lovely horses
needing experienced homes like yours
I had one of theirs for ten years and would happily do so again
Lancaster is a long way from me, I am in Newmarket ironically and am trying horses at our local centre, that's where I got buried yesterday, on my third ride of what I thought could be the one. I have always bought direct before from trainers and I have put it out locally what I would be looking for.
 

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If I was you I'd just sit tight, wait a while and see what shakes out when the economic crisis hits.

I'd like to Echo this. Horse ownership at the moment totally sucks - totally. Winter isn't helping at the moment either. ITs been very wet were I am.

I have two to do and no hope of competing. Its been a bit meh all round. I too am living on my own and need the out but I really am starting to struggle with motivation to keep them going and the wet wind and cold isn't helping me. We are now into my third lockdown since all this started too.

Give it the winter, enjoy the horse you currently have and then see what the new year brings...
 

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This year is such a strange one. I believe, rightly or wrongly, that the horse finds you. Keep the faith - you will find your next partner; there will sadly be a tsunami of 'for sale/loan' in the New Year as people cut back due to job losses and prices will fall.

I totally agree with this, and what Cortez says, the current insane situation cannot continue for much longer. I hate to sound bleak, but the resulting economic crisis from Covid will be huge, and horses will become impossible to afford for many, the time will come when the market/rescue centres etc will be flooded with horses, and then your search should become much easier. So hang on, dont give up, keep networking, and I'm sure in time you will find your next horse, I wish you all the very best with your search.
 

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Keep looking but make sure other people know you are looking. I have a sharer for Rose ATM as I can hack but not school her due to a health issue. I knew my sharer quite well but it was only when she posted on fb that I realised she wanted a horse to ride and it's turning out really well for both of us. fwiw, over the years I've had several sharers to help me keep horses going and they have always worked out really well. I also agree with Cortez that as the winter progresses they may be horses coming onto the market at sensible prices. Good luck, I hope something turns up for you
 

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What everyone above has said. Def get the word out/wanted ads etc so people k ow you’re looking. Agree re thinking about bringing on a youngster maybe?

Very hard to know what to do for the best but sounds like you need some fun and less stress in the meantime. But COVID is not helping ofc as that would ordinarily be having lessons or looking for a share possibly.

Not sure if this will help or hinder but I would never have put myself in the position of being able to find a decent horse to loan. But as things turned out, and through my network (from here in fact) , that’s exactly what happened. And it was related to COVID as others on here have said. So as unlikely as it seems, sometimes these things do turn up. In the meantime, try to do things that will keep up your spirits; it’s a tough time at the moment. I wish you luck.
 

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a pony?

loads of nice C's and D's kicking around for bugger all ££ who are generally easy cheap keepers with a good brain.

lots to aim for BD wise too, AF, young pony, native champs.

This is so true - you can get a fab pony for so much less than a very average horse though obviously it helps if you are happy to have a native type. :)
 

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I know how you feel, I lost my beautiful superstar of a horse this year and was gutted. I have a youngster that’s keeping my hand in, but without him I would have given up I think.
I would recommend also looking at a young horse, much more affordable and personally I do really enjoy that journey x
 

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I think we all have the tendency to think "we must keep going" but sometimes the constant struggle clouds the picture a bit. It sometimes helps mentally to give yourself "permission" to stand down and say you will not take up the cause again until ...insert date here... I think it makes the switching off more effective and you come back to the problem with a fresher brain.
I know you will feel that you might miss out on the perfect one but if word of mouth is already in operation for you then just let that carry on.
So many stories on here of folk who have been searching for horses - fruitlessly - for months - and then something happens out of the blue which turns out to be perfect so don't give up on finding something - just have a rest!!
 

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Yes, my current pony is off games because of a complicated abcess issue (but as a top tip she was an ex-riding school closing down purchase and she definitely has potential to go medium next Covid dependent; sadly, I think this may be the case for other places) and I have been looking for an older schoolmaster for the higher levels, but I am sitting on my hands as this market can't possibly last and I suspect a lot of horses will be sale next year for a lot less money. I hope in many ways that I'm wrong, but my budget is pretty tight anyway so I have to be sensible.
 

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a pony?

loads of nice C's and D's kicking around for bugger all ££ who are generally easy cheap keepers with a good brain.

Where are you seeing these? Ds have always been cheap but even in this market they're going for a lot.

Although this one looks nice, & is cheap: HQ 240525.
 

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Where are you seeing these? Ds have always been cheap but even in this market they're going for a lot.

Although this one looks nice, & is cheap: HQ 240525.
glad you said that, I've had an eye on Ds cos I'd like another and I think they are making pretty good money at the moment, even the online WPCS sales the older Ds have made a healthy price.
 

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glad you said that, I've had an eye on Ds cos I'd like another and I think they are making pretty good money at the moment, even the online WPCS sales the older Ds have made a healthy price.

I don't even know why I'm doing it to myself. I've had two - both as batty as each other and I am coming back for more! They're one of those breeds you can't help but go back to.
 

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Don’t be despondent - I spent 10 months ‘sort of’ looking for one after it became apparent that the old guy wasn’t going to ever event again, then 2 months of ‘properly’ looking after he then blew a tendon in the field. In the end I got told about a 5yr old TB through her previous racing trainer (she’d left to go hunting and they were already getting rid) who thought she’d be ideal for me. So word of mouth does work!
I put up a wanted ad on the Facebook group ‘racehorses off the track’ - got offered a lot of unsuitable ones (injuries etc) but there were a few that would have been ideal had the big girl not rocked up!
 
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