should i pimp him out to my friend?

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one of my friends is searching for an appie stallion for her mare which is in season now. she has been looking for a few months with the intention to breed when mare is in season ie now... but does not have the funds for transport and stud fee. she has bred before and is very good with mare and foal.
she knows i have an appie stallion and has asked me to pimp him to her. and he always has produced spots no matter what colour the mare is. should i lend her iggy aka (iggy spot) please dont laugh at his name :) and tell her to pay me back when she can as we are just a 15 min walk away from her. or do i leave it and say no and leave her to find something else for next time? and if i say no how do i say no without offending her? x

i hope that made sense? lol
 
if she dosent have the funds for a stud fee then how is she going to afford a foall???

someone said on here it costs around 3k just to get the foal on the ground....

tell her no.
 
Always becareful when it comes to money and "friends"!:eek:
If she hasnt the money for you now for covering when will she have it? when she sells the foal? thats a long wait!
If she cant afford the covering she cant afford to feed a pregnant mare or get the vet out?

Maybe im just been cynnical and someone will come along with a more positive story for you!!!:D:rolleyes:
 
Say no.
If she cant afford the stud fee and transport then she should not be breeding.

Has her mare had any of the vaccinations she needs before going to stud?EVA etc because without them if shes been bred before you may be putting your stally at risk of disease at the covering.

What if she has to get the vet out if theres a difficult foaling?will she be able to afford that?Or the extra feed that her mare might need.what is she going to do if she cant sell the foal?does she have her own land to keep an extra animal comfortably?

Breeding isnt cheap and there are hundreds of horses out there that she could invest in rather than adding another to the mix.

Plus lending money to friends is rarely a good idea.How is she going to pay you back?

Also is her mare's temperment and conformation fit for breeding?how does her are and your stally go togther conformation wise?what sort of foal would they throw...are either of them registered with any society?.....the quality of the foal will be a reflection on your stally in the future to.Will she throw good stock?

There is also a very poor market for horses at the minute so selling the foal is going to be very difficult.

If shes serious about breeding she should wait and raise the money for a stud fee and any possible issues.Her mare will come back in season again.The fact that shes in season and you are close is not a responsible way to breed.
Say no.
 
Its hard but try not to get involved in 'mate's rates' for your stallion. Trust me, it has spoilt two good friendships for me - one I have managed to salvage (but only just). Say no.
 
I would say no too if she hasn't got the stud fee - having just bred for the first time ever myself I know the costs involved (and I got a free cover from a very good friend) but extra feeding and care of mare whilst in foal, vets fees etc, is not cheap, besides seems a strange time of year to want to cover the mare, would give her a november foal, again more expensive to get the mare through winter with a foal on it (I know first hand how much more hay and feed my mare if having to keep her in tip top condition as her foal is only 12 weeks old and will be left on her right through winter. If she is already skint I can't see she'll be able to cope with everything else on top.
 
Why would anyone want a foal born in October/November?

Just say no and she has time to save up for a covering next Spring.
 
i own a stallion and if i was in your situation with my boy, i would have to say no.
I would not mention money... but say he wont be covering until spring.
When spring comes, make sure she has her mare swabbed etc... then IF you want to do a mates rate/freebie, do so. After all, if its a nice mare, and your friend will get the foal out and about - its all good for your boys reputation.
i really would have major concerns though that she hasnt the money for the stud fee - and that shes considering it at this time of year!
i have 2 mares still cycling - one of which i did try to cover unsucessfully this year.. but they are no longer being served by my stallion due to the time of year.

i dont think your friend can be offended if you say no... would many stallion owners allow a mare to be covered/AI'd at this time of year.... i doubt there would be many!
 
Echo the others who say it's a crazy time of year to get a mare in foal. Not covering until spring is an excellent way of saying no without offence.
 
i know she can afford it. one of her kids had to be flown back from Dubai a few weeks ago due to a death in family so all her money for stud ext went on the flight for her daughter to get home.
mare has been swabbed and tested. would never put my boy at risk for anyone or anything just for a bit of cash.

whether is the main reason why i am humming and arrrring about doing it even though one of mine a few years ago was born in october (not planned) my partner turned out stallion into the wrong lot of paddocks in with all the mares! luckily he only caught 1 of them. we just put them in a small paddock with an open large shelter and a little foal rug and the wee man was fine and dandy.

another thing is i have never let my boy go with a friends mare it has always been people who have seen him advertised ext, while mare is in foal i have the feeling i will try and take over or friend will want , not help, but for me to be there 24/7 because she used my boy. and i dont want patience to wear thin with her or with me. but i would love to help her out and see another mini "spot" round about
 
No:eek::eek::eek::mad::eek:

it is far to late in the season to put a mare in foal aswell as all the other things that have been mentioned, if you are having doubts then you know hat its not a good idea allready.
 
I would take her to a market where she can pick up a foal for 10gns!

If she really wants a foal from your stallion in particular then she can wait until Spring :).
 
Toast said:
Are you for real?!
The more you post the more it sounds as though you shouldnt be owning horses.
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how do you work that out? you dont know me. im only asking as i dont want to upset my friend as she has done a help of a lot for me, or put a wee foal (if mare has one) at risk. that doesnt make my unsuitable to own horses because i am asking advice. you dont no me so please dont judge me like that. all my horses are very healthy and most of them very spoilt they are treated like royalty. i have good grazing and give them good feed stuffs they are all ridden at least twice a week unless the weather is poor (or to young to be ridden)and are all rugged up ext. they have regular check ups from vet and all up to date with wormers and vacs and farrier. the two most important things in my life are my kids and my horses. just because i am cautious and ask for advice means i shouldnt be owning them. ?
 
my friend found a stallion this morning that she can afford and is taking her mare there tomorrow for a few days. i said as i wasnt 100% that i wanted her to used him that she should either find something else or wait. so she found something else.

wanted to avoid falling out with her but.... she has as she wasnt happy i said no.
 
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november seems a stupid time to put a mare in foa,l poor thing, when i bred from my mare i felt that june was quite late, she doesnt seem very responsible by wanting to bring a foal into the world in this weather !
 
tuppence's fortune said:
my friend found a stallion this morning that she can afford and is taking her mare there tomorrow for a few days. i said as i wasnt 100% that i wanted her to used him that she should either find something else or wait. so she found something else.
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You might not be barking mad but I think your friend is completely bonkers...
 
Well seemingly you dont know the first thing about breeding, or you wouldnt be considering putting your friends mare in foal at the end of november?! absolutely ridiculous and 'pimp him out'?!! hardly breeders terminology.

And i dont think i need to even drag up the issue of you leaving your filly in a field unattended when it had colic..
 
Toast said:
Well seemingly you dont know the first thing about breeding, or you wouldnt be considering putting your friends mare in foal at the end of november?! absolutely ridiculous and 'pimp him out'?!! hardly breeders terminology.

And i dont think i need to even drag up the issue of you leaving your filly in a field unattended when it had colic..
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re my filly: did you actually read the post? as in all of it? as i think i said my friends helped me out by checking on her... it was not possible for me to be with her all night as i could not and would not of dragged my kids down there in the freezing cold and let them get ill. not a chance. i could not get a babysitter at such short notice so im not really sure what i could have done in that respect? and as for pimp him out, for god sake it is a figure of speech. so if you are thinking i am a bad owner because i have wrote pimp out instead of the "technical terminology" or i had to get some trusted friends to check on my mare for me, i think you need to get a grip. if you dont like what i have written why comment at all. like i have said before... all my horses are very well cared for and as for the one that had sand colic... none of mine have ever had this before hence the post... anyone is welcome to come see my animals i have nothing to hide. i dont mind constructive criticisum and any advice from anyone is greatly appreciated. but i will not sit here and have someone tell me i dont deserve horses for incorrect terminology and for getting friends to check a mare for me when she was ill.

i think you have too much time on your hands. and i think if you are that concerned about my animals you should obviously contact the rspca and inform them of it.
 
There is a reason why mares are not usually in season at this time of year and that is because the foal would arrive in late October/early November.

Could you imagine a month old foal or less trying to cope with this type of weather.

Really stupid idea - If you want to go ahead tell her to wait until the spring.
 
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