Should YO`s intervene?

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There are lots of posts asking for advice on resolving conflict of one type or another between liveries - and I mainly refer to a DIY setup.

Most of the time there will be opinions that the YO should sort it out, and it got me thinking.

Is it the YOs responsibility, or as DIYers, do we just rent space? Anything else (including conflict) is our own responsibility.
 
I would say that unless the horse's welfare is at stake, then really it should be down to the individual liveries. Otherwise the YO is compelled to act as some sort of kindergarten teacher. IMO if people are responsible enough to look after their own horse then they should be adult enough to manage their own social relationships.

Disclaimer - I am saying this from the enviable position of being the only livery on a very small yard and haven't had the misfortune to come across some of the complete nutters you see posted about on here - I guess I've had a very sheltered life :)
 
Only if the situation gets out of hand, and threatens to upset other users of the yard, hopefully everyone can behave as grown ups!. No two people will ever agree on exactly the way horses are looked after so you have to live and let live!!
 
We were at a yard where the actual YO loved nothing more than stirring up the liveries and would be seen talking to her pet liveries with suggestions of what to do! Needless to say she has a high turnover of liveries there.

If I had a livery yard and people were being made to feel bad by other liveries then I would step in. Everyone pays the same and has the right to be able to enjoy their time at the yard without being tense or upset.
 
I'm on DIY and there's one person (two if you include their mum) who I don't talk to as I've had an argument with. We got some kittens at the yard and they spent the first few night sleeping in my feed room. They wanted a key so they could get to them and I said no, I didn't trust them and I keep a lot if other stuff in my feed room. They then told me YO had said I had to pay £40 extra a month and told me I couldn't afford that, they also told me I couldn't afford to get a key cut so they were going to bring a padlock from home for me to use to could get in. By that point they'd really peed me off so I went to YO who said he never said I had to pay extra for the feed room and that they'd made it up as they hadn't even spoken to him about it. I just dont speak to them now, theyre rude, patronizing .. When a pony was being PTS at our yard a few weeks ago before the pony was dead this girl was argueing that she was having the field the pony had :mad:


I'm not the only person on the yard who doesn't talk to her, there are two or three others. Every argument that's happened on the yard has involved her but she always goes crying to the YO who doesn't seem to realise that shes the trouble maker. If it was my yard I'd have chucked her off years ago. I think in this case the YO should have got involved a long time ago and should realise thats all the yard tiffs have involved her and that something should be done, though I seriously doubt that will happen any time soon :/
 
I think that it is the YO's responsibility to establish yard rules and to enforce their adherence. However, I don't think that it is the YO's responsibility to sort out petty arguments between liveries.
 
IMO it depends on the situation. If a livery isn't looking after a horse correctly and it's welfare is becoming a concern to other liveries, then yes, I think the YO should get involved (speaking from personal experience).

Similarly, (also from experience) if contract rules (no dogs on yard, no children unsupervised etc) are being broken, then I think the YO should also become involved.

If it's just a silly tiff between two liveries, then I'd hope that they would be able to resolve any issues without any involvement from YO, but if it was getting out of hand then I think YO should be able to step in if absolutely neccessary.
 
If a yard owner doesnt want a churning yard they need to manage their yard.
As many posts on here show, it very few yards that " just tick over "
There needs to be rules that everyone follows with no exeptions.
I think its to easy for some to take the money and just let folk get on with it, which the posts on here show, causes huge problems.
While in an ideal world everyone would agree and work things out with the yo just collecting the rent, in reality it seldom, if ever happens like that.
 
It has to the YO's responsibility. There needs to be one person who is in charge and can make the final,decisions. I was on DIY years ago and we all sorted everything out happily between us. However a new livery arrived and just ran rough shod over everyone else. This included refusing to integrate her (new) horse with the other geldings. Result. Mine was on box rest for the rest of the summer with a damaged tendon and then she did it AGAIN and it so damaged one of the ponies that was out all summer as well. Turned out said horse had never been out with others before but oh no, new owner knew best and disregarded all the normal yard rules..
 
I don't have DIY liveries, but from a YO's point of view:
I look after my clients' horses, maintain the facilities, provide advice and guidance where needed. I am NOT their mother/bodyguard/solicitor/agony aunt. So, if it directly concerns the yard or the horses, I will intervene, otherwise I take the stance that grown ups can sort their differences themselves.
 
I think that if the dispute has anything to do with the smooth running of the yard the YO should have the final say and should step in, as the liveries are the YO's customers and it is in the YO's interests to ensure that the customers are settled and happy on the yard. If it's a personal dispute between 2 liveries the YO should stay clear, BUT commonsense would say that if a personal situation between 2 liveries were to get out of hand and start to cause problems for the other customers the YO should intervene - much like the owner of a Pub would throw out customers who were causing a nuisance to the other clientelle.
 
maresmaid said:
I think that if the dispute has anything to do with the smooth running of the yard the YO should have the final say and should step in, as the liveries are the YO's customers and it is in the YO's interests to ensure that the customers are settled and happy on the yard. If it's a personal dispute between 2 liveries the YO should stay clear, BUT commonsense would say that if a personal situation between 2 liveries were to get out of hand and start to cause problems for the other customers the YO should intervene - much like the owner of a Pub would throw out customers who were causing a nuisance to the other clientelle.
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This ^^^^ absolutely! For one thing, if the YO lives on site, any seriously bad disagreements will start to affect YO's quality of life because all involved parties will go 'bleating' - seen it happen! In an ideal world, adults would sort out their problems in an adult manner. Unfortunately, that often doesn't happen, and in the horse world it is even more unlikely! ;) If there is a YM, as opposed to a YO, then it is quite definitely their responsibility to sort out - managing a yard involves managing the people on it, however much a PITA they may be.
 
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