Show Jumping - Warm up Arena hight of fences

In BE u can't jump higher than in the ring (I think) but I think a lot of people do

Personally, I don't. Im worrying more about trying to get my head in gear to feel the need to jump massively
 
There is a BSJA rule about this (3.6.2 I think) but basically the height of practice fence must not exceed the max height of the first round of the calss in progress or 1.05, which ever is the greater.

As I'm normally billy-no-mates at comps I just have to jump whatever happens to be up so could end up jumping anything from 70cm to 1.20mtr as a warm up for BN.
 
Ditto what JunoXV said about BSJA rule (although it is never enforced
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BRC official competitions also have a rule that the warm up fence should be no bigger then the current class
 
aghhhh that is good !!!!

ok was at unaffilliated show Sunday with a few girls from the yard (they are looking at holding affiliated soon to!)

It was one of the girls FIRST ever jumping show on her horse he is very nervous and we promised her the jumps would be tiny - they were in the 2ft class !!

so she was last to go and a little nervous so i put the jumps up about 4/5 holes bigger in the warm up - bear in mind no one else was warming up at this point !!

I was trying to get her confidence up saying look what you jumped in the warm up the class is tiny - then the steward shouts over please put the jumps down to the hight of the class it is not fair on others !!!

me being me refused and got into a little arguement saying that if anyone else wanted to jump the fence then fine then fine but they didnt - his reply and a few other peoples was 'well if she can jump that she should be in the novice or the intermediate class' - er its her first show !!!

Well he went in and was eliminated at the first fence !!!

really does annoy me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
If the schedule stated run under BSJA rules (most unaff do) then you could happily put the fence up to 1.05 and nothing they can do about it. Just have a copy of BSJA rules handy in case
 
I have seen it enforced at a BSJA show. I think that you should be allowed to jump up to say 10cm bigger than the class.
 
I know at most BE events I attend I always seem to be in the warm up with the people who feel they need to be jumping novice before they go in to do intro. It is v annoying and inconsiderate to others warming up, but what can you do?....I juat wait till they have finished and get my helper to put the fences back to the correct height (usually taped on the side of the jump stand) and then do my warm up.
 
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I know at most BE events I attend I always seem to be in the warm up with the people who feel they need to be jumping novice before they go in to do intro. It is v annoying and inconsiderate to others warming up, but what can you do?....

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The occasional time this has happend to me when eventing I simply ask if the person concerned is aware of the rule and that they can be eliminated. Never had a problem doing that. Tends to happen more at intro through folks not understanding the rules.
If however they still persisted i would inform the collecting ring steward immediately.
 
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If the schedule stated run under BSJA rules (most unaff do) then you could happily put the fence up to 1.05 and nothing they can do about it. Just have a copy of BSJA rules handy in case

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perfect i knew there was a rule and even went back to the lorry to see if I could find my rule book but it was at home - HOW SAD AM I !

oh good I will definately be telling them this next time i go !

as i said if there were other people warming up then i wouldnt have done it or asked them if they minded but it was only us using the fences !!
 
Just wanted to correct Jules89. In BE you are allowed to go 5cm higher than the maximum in the ring. Most events actually put coloured tape on the wings denoting the maximum height for each class which is useful as it's easy to see.
 
what is the BE rule on this?... I have never thought to look it up coz I don't see the need to jump any bigger in the warm up than what's in the ring.

I know the ruel of thumb is "train at a higher level at home than what you compete at", but that's "at home" I hate it when people use the warm up as an area to school their horse, it is simply a warm up, if you havent done your practise at home then 10 mins blatting over 1.05 won't help you in the ring! (sorry pet hate!!!)
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I do think in this age of 2-phase classes it would make sense to alllow the practice fence to be put up to the maximum height of the fences you are likely to jump in the ring...in other words 10cms higher than the first round height.

It also gets slightly confusing at multi-arena venues like Hickstead where you can often find yourself warming up for a 1.10m alongside someone else who is jumping a 1.40m+ class in another ring. I remember well a couple of seasons ago coming round to an upright that I had jumped a few seconds earlier and thinking...hmmm...OH has put that up a bit more than I wanted...only to be told I had jumped it at 1.40m rather than the 1.20m or so I was expecting as the other persons groom had whacked it up for them and they were warming up for a much bigger class lol! You lose all sense of scale in the warm-up there though as it's so bl**dy big and there are so many other people jumping huge fences around you
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To save you lookiong the rule is 122.6
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you are a star !!! is the rule book still on the BSJA webby i cant find it ?
 
See as long as you put them down again I have no problem with this even if other people are warming up. But there is a well known producing/livery/dealing/competition yard relatively near me who when they go out insist on putting up 1.10 fences for a 2'9" warm up and then wandering off and leaving them at that height.

Not only does it intimidate other competitors - I had to convince one poor woman to actually compete at all after she saw what they were doing at one venue (although as I say does not bother me as horse was only doing those classes to rebuild confidence/see how well ulcers were healing), but it is downright rude to those of us who compete alone and rely on the goodwill of others to alter fences.

I have asked these people myself, I have passed on a message via one of their liveries, and still they do it. So from now on when I see them do it they will get a complaint logged against them with the secretary and the steward. Maybe if I do it enough times they will realise it takes all of about 30 seconds to put the fence back down to something smaller.
 
I prefer to jump a few fences in the warm-up bigger than the class that I'm jumping. Maybe its just a mental thing, but I like her to get her legs in the air, plus it also relaxes me as the jumps look smaller in the ring.

As for saying that you should be jumping in the class above if jumping higher than in warm up than the class, then that's just silly. Jumping one fence at a higher height doesnt mean that you'll neccessarily get round a whole course of fences at that height?!
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spotted cat- most annoying if you have actually got off to alter the fence and by the time you have circled to get to it someone is already fiddling with it.

I think I would get less annoyed if they all put it down afterwards.

I too have dealt with some very intimidated competitors when I help out at our local indoor arena particlularly at the lower ie 2'-2'6 levels so tend to be quite strict on it. No one is going to notice a couple of holes but anymore and I don't think it is on if say 5cm a hole that is 25cm= about 10inches ie putting a 2ft fence up to 2'9.
 
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spotted cat- most annoying if you have actually got off to alter the fence and by the time you have circled to get to it someone is already fiddling with it.


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See in that situation I would probably yell at the person to make it clear I was about to jump that fence! Do that all the time because I am invariably alone and do not wish to get off my horse to alter fences so usually tag in behind someone else or collar a random stranger to ask them to change it for me.
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I just jump what is up unless I am at a certain venue which has an outdoor arena that isn't officially a collecting ring so isn't stewarded - have been known to jump 1m10 warming up for 75!

I know PC can't be bigger than the current class, as we had a big problem with people not only putting it up to 1m 35 for a 95cm class but also brining the ground line out 3ft- so now the arenas are properly stewarded.
 
I have to say I will generally do what I feel inclined to in the practise ring, if I want them put up, I generally do it !
However, I dont get in anyones way (taken me years to learn it mind you!) I dont get involved in arguements/issues, just get in there, do whatever I feel I need to , am polite etc., and get out. I;ve never really had any trouble, although do get quietly annoyed over rude people or jump hogs or people that use your horse's backside as a battering ram to stop - so next time I wont warm up while they're using the fence. Easy solution!
Cant stand such a fuss over something so simple!
 
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