Showing a coloured, would he do well.

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Just musing really, I have never owned a horse that I would consider showing in a coloured class, I did have a coloured but she was blue and white so the colouring was not easy to see!
When we are up and riding/running I would like to show ben in (2013) we will be doing Ridden Hunter and Working Hunter but would love to know whether his colouring would pass muster in the coloured ring. I know some of it is down to the judges preference but would you be happy showing a horse with these markings? :D
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I like his body markings but I'm just nt sure he would do well with the head markings. I really like them but not sure judges would. But that's my opinion
 
I think locally you may do well as he's evenly marked on the body. However for larger shows he's neither one thing nor another (no offence) i.e. he's not a traditional or sports horse/warmblood type so judges may struggle to 'judge against others'. I am also wondering if his facial markings are a bit like marmite (again no offence) you will either like them or you wont- as it makes his eyes look asymetrical on his face. Do you have a 4 square pic as the one pic makes him look a little straight through the hock.

I like him, and I think in local/RC shows why not! Is he reg'd anything?
 
Well if i was a judge, you know he would get first place! :D But on a serious note, i would say the same as above, that in local shows he would be fine, but i wouldnt know for bigger ones (purely as i dont do them!) :)
 
Agree with all the others as he is evenly marked on his body.

Can't help but wonder if his head would look better with a bridle on, a nice hunter noseband to break up all the white

They always look lovely all scrubbed up and in their finest and I think he will look lovely :)
 
A very wide noseband and nicely trimmed plaited up pulled tail he will look a very smart horse, he is carring two genes that have effected his face markings
 
angrovestud said:
A very wide noseband and nicely trimmed plaited up pulled tail he will look a very smart horse, he is carring two genes that have effected his face markings
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Angrove, thats interesting, could you explaine a bit more please :D

Yes they are a bit like marmite I agree :D I love his clown smile markings as I call them but I agree that the face is asymetrical. Good point about the chunky hunter bridle :D I have bought a nice chunky padded cavesson for daily use the one I have is without a flash. But will be investing in a hunter for showing.
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Shadowboy, I have looked but I can't seem to find one of him standing completely square side on, I will try to take a picture tomorrow, because I would be interested to hear your view.

Local shows is the maximum for me, nothing too major. I hope to event him, he has some lovely paces nice speed and bold jump, I think he will be great. He does look really good trimmed up although I confess I have yet to plait, but sure he would look ace :D
 
I like him, but I think he has far too much white on his face to do well higher than local level.
Basically, it is preference of the judge, a horse's colours or marking are further down the ranks than confo and ride, and therefore are one of the last things considered, even in a coloured class, strangely enough!
Taken from BSPA:
RIDDEN CLASSES

Ridden Skewbald and Piebald. 40% conformation and type characteristics 60% Ride, performance, manners and display

Working Hunters. 70/30% as 50% Jumping 10% Style and manners whilst jumping 10% Manners whilst performing individual show, Judge’s ride and or Final Ride Round 30% Conformation and type.

Whenever judges experience difficulty separating individual entries to achieve a final placing, having used the above criteria, then the BSPA require that Colour and Markings
become the deciding factor in order to achieve a result.
 
He has too much white on him tbh. he would do well locally, but there is too much white esp on the face.... BUT thats just my opinion. Go and try your hand/hoof - who knows - we may see you at HOYS nx yr! x
 
Lovely horse, how big is he?

I wouldn't buy that bridle for showing its not a hunter and would be totally incorrect. You need a plain unpadded, unstitched havanna bridle for showing. It should be used with a double bit or Rugby Pelham so you need one with a slip head as well. No flash either for coloured classes, though I think you can use them in working hunter (not sure as we dont jump)

See if you can borrow a wide cavasson noseband to try before you buy. Some very experienced showing people told me to buy a 2" for our big coloured. It should have been perfect but it looked absolutely dreadful as she has quite a bit of white on her face. We ended up with a thinner one which looks much better.
 
rockysmum said:
I wouldn't buy that bridle for showing its not a hunter and would be totally incorrect.
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She's not buying that bridle for showing though :confused: QB said she's buying that bridle for daily use.

QB I have to ask, what is going on with your horse's eyes on that last photo :eek: I hope he's been on the vodka and doesn't usually look like that :D Apart from the googly eyes, he's cute (the straight hind legs leapt out at me but maybe that photo was taken on the same day as the vodka drinking ;))
 
Splash gene often means white face (and often blue eye therefore, although my mate has a cob with a black face and two blue eyes :confused:)

The tobiano gene produces white-haired, pink-skinned patches on a base coat color. The coloration is present from birth. Tobianos are frequently referred to as "Coloured" or as Piebald (black and white) or Skewbald (white and brown or anything other than black)

Normal patterning:
White legs from the hocks and knees down
White crossing the back between the withers and the dock of the tail.
Extreme white facial markings suggest the presence of additional color pattern genes beyond Tobiano, maybe sabino or overo genes.

Tobiano is a dominant gene.Therefore, one parent must be a tobiano for the pattern to occur.

Overo is a solid coloured horse with white splashes anywhere on the body.

Sabino is indicated by roaming and jagged edges on coloured patches. More visible when clipped.

Mine has a mix of all three, as do many coloureds. There are DNA tests if you're bothered.

Mine's winning cob class in my sig, he has white face up to his forehead where the black starts. For showing, wide noseband and pelham.

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Spring Feather said:
She's not buying that bridle for showing though :confused: QB said she's buying that bridle for daily use.

QB I have to ask, what is going on with your horse's eyes on that last photo :eek: I hope he's been on the vodka and doesn't usually look like that :D Apart from the googly eyes, he's cute (the straight hind legs leapt out at me but maybe that photo was taken on the same day as the vodka drinking ;))
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Bless him, I think he was being attacked by a fly or two then, his eyes are normally sound, unless the flash is in action and then he is usually photographed mid blink LOL! :D Will try and get a better side on shot tomorrow for CC :D
 
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