Showing In-Hand?

How old is she?
Youngstock normally have an in hand bridle with a coupling and lead, but adult horses can be shown in a double bridleor pelham, with 2 reins over the head.
Plain leather as she is a native.

You should wear hacking jacket, shirt and tie, beige trousers, brown short boots and a hat.
 
Plain, flat nose band, plain browband.

What colour legs does he/she have? If light then you should wear dark trousers, if dark legs then you should wear light trousers. White shirt, tie, waistcoat or tweed jacket, brown gloves, black boots/shoes you can run in.
 
Ch-ching! Sorry I heard Showing, Welsh D and In-hand in one sentence, so had to add my two pence worth seeing as this is what we do all summer long!
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Correct attire is a white halter - make sure its clean.
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Pretty face? Make it a flat very plain webbing halter to emphasise it. Otherwise a rope halter for any other type of head, and play around how high/low you place the noseband to maximise her facial features.

Your attire for Welsh Ds should be "Workmanlike" - I personally wouldn't wear a hat because you have to run so fast with D's! so hair tied back neatly and simply or a bun, hacking jacket and tie, and in her case probably dark trousers, black, navy or dark brown. Gloves for you. Some breeders wear very casual, jeans, white trainers, gillets or untucked shirts but I wouldn't.

If there is any possibility the judge can think she's anything other than welsh, do one plat (and leave it down) behind her ear.

I'm getting carried away now, but pm me if you want any more info.

When's your show?
 
Yep, showing cane. One with a flicky end is good to get her to trot out fast.

.. and I forgot to mention footwear, something smart but that you can run fast in
 
Great post!

I've also got a Welsh D to show this year. She's rising 3.

I've shown her once in a white halter but struggled to hold onto her, so have shown the last 2 times (indoor) with a plain snaffle bridle and hunter weight cavesson noseband.

As they were mixed M&M classes people wore allsorts including jeans.

If I wear a hat, can it be my Riding Hat with a black Lycra 'silk' as I don't possess any other type of hat except a couple of odd coloured woolly ones??

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Great post!

I've also got a Welsh D to show this year. She's rising 3.

I've shown her once in a white halter but struggled to hold onto her, so have shown the last 2 times (indoor) with a plain snaffle bridle and hunter weight cavesson noseband.

As they were mixed M&M classes people wore allsorts including jeans.

If I wear a hat, can it be my Riding Hat with a black Lycra 'silk' as I don't possess any other type of hat except a couple of odd coloured woolly ones??

Thanks

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Hi Madhossy.

... thats half the fun of showing welshes, not having any control!!!
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If you think you need a hat for your safety then wear your riding hat, but TBH I really wouldn't wear one at all. Flat cap is an alternative (you can buy them from "old mens" stores from upwards of £7) BUT... you are certain to lose it when running. Youo have been warned
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First show i did judge thought my Welsh D was a new forest and told me off about not being true to type. Everyone we meet knows he is a Welsh D straight away so that was strange. He was ancient. perhaps he needed new glasses!
 
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First show i did judge thought my Welsh D was a new forest and told me off about not being true to type. Everyone we meet knows he is a Welsh D straight away so that was strange. He was ancient. perhaps he needed new glasses!

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I went to a showing clinic recently and the judge said that if you think it is at all possible for your horse to be mistaken for another breed, do whatever you can to help the judge decide which breed it is - in your case a small plait along the jaw line.
She made reference to a bay connie at the clinic - he was true to type, but I along with several others just couldn't guess his breed.
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Apparently most of the judges at local level specialise on a particular breed - obviously tend to be clustered from where the breeds are from, but welshies are most popular. they don't actually have to have any training in the other breeds, so most likely will have read a book that says "Dales have ribons in their tails, welsh Ds have plaits on jawline" - that sort of thing. You could argue they shouldn't be judging if they don't know their stuff, but it happens, so best to give the judge a massive unmissable hint to be sure
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Breed society ties and badges shown prominently can also work.
 
I've got a mixed M&M show next week so will do the little plait, but the week after it's a Welsh D youngster class so there's no mistaking!!! Hopefully!!

Don't fancy my girl getting away from me in the trot up and offering herself to a handsome Colt in the line-up !!!


I understood it was an absolute no no, not to wear a hat in Showing classes? Is this correct?

But eek - I can't see myself in a flat cap!! Would feel I'd need to paint on a moustache as well!!
 
my chocloate dun connie has often been mistaken for a poor example of a section D by the local judges round here! (serious welsh territory here in north wales)

If your showing youngstock then i would always wear a hard hat. Ive had some youngstock that have been to several shows rear up over my head, if they had come down on me and i hadnt worn a hat they would have done some serious damage luckily they have yet to come down on me, but i refuse to risk it
 
I seem to remember about a year ago a woman was killed whilst showing her youngster in hand, as it knocked her hat off when it reared and kicked her in the head. I would like to think I'll always wear one.
 
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Spider - I don't think ribbons are a welsh thing. You'd be find with just the plait. And if the judge doesn't know a welsh D when they see it then as you say they probably need better eyesight!!
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Madhossy - In that case because she is 3 I'd wear the skull hat, but as a general rule I never see Welsh show people of any type in a hat (except youngstock).

Good luck - whereabouts are the shows? I can't believe its show season already!
 
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Wooo! Welshies in-hand, always fun! My favourite bit of confusion was with a very good D mare & foal in a large breed M & M class. The Judge (who I'm not convinced was 'all there' asked if the foal was an arab, erm, no. She then asked if the mare was arab, or at least part bred. Um, no! Sometimes, you have to wonder where they find these people!
 
Hi Madhossy.

... thats half the fun of showing welshes, not having any control!!!
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or is that just me
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That is often why I don't personally like showing in classes with ''welsh'' present (I show Highlands), because they aren't always in control
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, and over the years have seen some very dangerous situations with Ds, I have also seen some beautifully behaved Ds.
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I suppose it depends on the degree of control you're talking about - For me, all the lack of control issues I tend to see with Welshies are due to the speed you have to trot them out at rather than anything else, and tend to be resolved by reaching the ring side
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Personally I have never caused a dangerous situation, and would be mortified if I did. Mind you, after getting fed up of using the ringside as breaks we did buy the type of halter with a chain underneath and its a lot better!

Unfortunately for the non-welshes in the class, Welsh Ds show much better a bit het up and are allowed to get away with a lot more, whereas all the other native breeds are frowned upon if they are a bit too lively. You've just reminded me of the time I used to show a highland, things we so much more sedate
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I've probably just given completely the wrong impression of myself and the breed now..
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- only meant to have a laugh at myself and some other Welsh D handlers who clearly have very little control, I don't for one minute advocate being so out of control you can cause a dangerous situation.
 
I'm sure you're always in control
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, what I do often find though, is the male welsh D stallion handlers, who often seem, to think that they are ''on show''
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, rather than the pony, and have often come right up behind
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, if I'm showing a mare, and I forever find myself, circling, to get out of their way, so that does make me
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. As far as sedate Highlands are concerned, you obviously haven't seen mine
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I'm sure you're always in control
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, what I do often find though, is the male welsh D stallion handlers, who often seem, to think that they are ''on show''
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, rather than the pony, and have often come right up behind
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, if I'm showing a mare, and I forever find myself, circling, to get out of their way, so that does make me
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. As far as sedate Highlands are concerned, you obviously haven't seen mine
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He he he!
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Welsh D stallions and their handlers are a completely different kettle of fish, I was going to mention them in my previous post but didn't want to completely scare everyone else off!

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Surely they shouldn't have been in the same class as you? Must have been a local show, as a warm up for the season of counties? Sounds pretty unfair ... oh no, I must stop myself now before a rant comes on!!

PMSL at your highland, no I obviously haven't met yours, the one I showed I couldn't get into trot hardley
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- so when his owner took him to county and I groomed, we did our best to wind him up before the class... and he cantered in the in-hand class
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oopps immediate dismissal to the end of rhe line!

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I did take it as a bit of a joke, don't worry!!

What I meant was that my filly constantly pushed me into the centre of the arena, if I gave her a poke she threw her head up in the air which nearly lifted me off my feet, and then proceeded to tank off, and I felt like Penelope Pitstop! Huge great bit running strides with absolutely no control!

Think the other competitors were scared of us!!!
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She's been much better since being in a bridle and having a few more outings. Will go back to a white halter when she's better handleable
 
Yes, I agree naturally, that it does only happen in warm up at local type shows, but it's still annoying. which Highland did you show?, mine are all extremely forward going, that's how they're bred.
 
Hmm well I have only really known 2 Highlands so am not the most experienced with the breed, can't name names as I don't feel comfortable doing that on a public forum when they weren't mine, but the one we took to county was maybe only slow because he was a big baby and didn't really understand what was going on, she has carried on his education and he has since done extremely well ridden but is the same in-hand. The other was a friend's I rode occasionally and she was just very reluctant to go forwards in general, prefered a life of quiet ambling around and stuffing her chops, so thats my limited experience of Highlands. Good to hear they're not all like that!
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My funniest Highland experience was youngster's strops, he thought it was the biggest deal in the world when he was stropping, but everything was just a tad... understated! I'm convinced he thought that humping his back (i.e. feet never left the ground) was a HUGE rear one day, he walkled the rest of the way home puffed up with pride, with a real "there, that told them" (It didn't, he still had to walk through that puddle!)
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Anyway sorry off-topic, madhossy given what you just posted I think maybe it would be best to show your young lady in an in-hand bridle until she learns not to cart you around, with the aim of graduating to a halter when possible. You wouldn't be the first to be dragged around a show, first show I took a D to we put his halter on, I was supposed to be holding him at the trailer while we sorted final touches out and he took me walkies instead - I'm not exactly small but not a thing I could do about it!
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(oops sorry I'm supposed to be giving the impression I'm in control at all times!
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the baby welsh D that i show has very good manners. She has never pulled away from me, and never been out of control.
For a 2 yearold D her behavour is on a par with my 18 yearold connies at shows and we have only ever had one rear from her which was at her first indoor show when someone banged on the door (loudly to wind up the stallion that was in the championship with us), she came straight back down and continued on with the class with no problems!. You dont need to look or be out of control to win welsh classes.
 
I used to show a Highland pony for a friend, he was a very good example of the breed and you couldn't really mistake him for anything else...........except if you're the judge of an M & M class at a show I went to. I was placed 1st with him and when giving me my rosette the judge said 'isn't he lovely, is he a section D?'
 
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