Showing numpty question

[lozzles]

I've never shown a dog so have zero knowledge... I was just wondering why you never seem to get the likes of golden retrievers and labradors winning best in show at the likes of crufts. Or maybe they have and I just haven't spotted them.

Are there certain breeds that compete better against others?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Crufts is just one show. Flat coats have taken BIS a few times. There are loads of other all-breed open and championship shows up and down the country. You can check results at the likes of Fosse Data and Higham Press or OnlineDogshows.

 

[blackcob]

Yup, Crufts just happens to be big and televised but there’s dogs winning the equivalent best in show at dozens of championship shows throughout the year.

It makes no odds if a breed is numerically popular or has a large entry, only a single dog goes through to group competition so all breeds theoretically have a 1 in 223 (or whatever it is now) chance of BIS.

I suspect there is sometimes a bias towards dogs that are flashy in terms of movement or coat preparation over those that are more workmanlike, but that might be the butthurt handler of a workmanlike utility breed talking. Some dogs just have something about them.

 

[druid]

There is more showy breeds in the gundog group who can out shine them - Flatties, setters coat wise and some of the HPRs in flashy (incorrect!!) movement. Spaniels also in terms of coat and flash and dash

 

[lozzles]

The showiness makes sense as I've also never seen one win at Westminster. I remember the flat coat winning. Was a gorgeous dog!

 

[Annette4]

I suspect there is sometimes a bias towards dogs that are flashy in terms of movement or coat preparation over those that are more workmanlike, but that might be the butthurt handler of a workmanlike utility breed talking. Some dogs just have something about them.

I may be an equally butthurt handler of a workmanlike pastoral breed but I do think the same. Against the big, flashy pastoral breed, ours never does well.

 

[blackcob]

Bloody poodles

 

[MurphysMinder]

I may be an equally butthurt handler of a workmanlike pastoral breed but I do think the same. Against the big, flashy pastoral breed, ours never does well.

Lancashire heelers have a similar problem! Not that mine are shown so Im not a butthurt handler

 

[Clodagh]

Like with horses I suppose where a Welsh D is always going to draw the eye more than a New Forest.
Anyway I refuse to acknowledge the lard lumps at Crufts as Labradors

 

[MurphysMinder]

Like with horses I suppose where a Welsh D is always going to draw the eye more than a New Forest.
Anyway I refuse to acknowledge the lard lumps at Crufts as Labradors

There was a show Labrador at mantrailing the other week . She was a proper lard lump , I thought she was an old girl but she was 9 months old, and has qualified for Crufts !

 

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Like with horses I suppose where a Welsh D is always going to draw the eye more than a New Forest.
Anyway I refuse to acknowledge the lard lumps at Crufts as Labradors

The only thing they can do in the field would be roll around!!

I will have a look at the BASC classes if I can find them on catch up though!!